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View Poll Results: Do you have to do anything in life for your life to be good or valuable?
Yes, you have to have faith in Jesus to enter Heaven. 0 0%
Yes, you have to remove your karma to become Enlightened. 0 0%
Yes, you have to completely submit to Allah to be rewarded after life. 0 0%
No, nothing is required of you. You simply live and life simply exists with inherent purpose. 2 66.67%
Yes or no with another different option than those given. 1 33.33%
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Old 30th March 2008, 04:23 PM   #1
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The Necessity of Action

This is a big question for me that I've been contemplating recently, I'd like to hear everyone's imput on it. And, as a note, the question could also be phrased, in a larger way: is anything required of you or any other person in their life to avoid a bad or undesired state after life, including Hell, Rebirth/reincarnation, etc., or to get you a specific positive state after life, such as Heaven, Enlightenment/Nirvana, etc.? I hope that makes it clearer.
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This is a big question for me that I've been contemplating recently, I'd like to hear everyone's imput on it. And, as a note, the question could also be phrased, in a larger way: is anything required of you or any other person in their life to avoid a bad or undesired state after life, including Hell, Rebirth/reincarnation, etc., or to get you a specific positive state after life, such as Heaven, Enlightenment/Nirvana, etc.? I hope that makes it clearer.
See for that the reply in Science Fiction.
I very much appreciate your sincere participation.
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Old 30th March 2008, 04:43 PM   #3
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Re: The Necessity of Action

Thank you for yours too. You can still vote here too though if you'd like.
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Old 30th March 2008, 09:32 PM   #4
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This is a big question for me that I've been contemplating recently, I'd like to hear everyone's imput on it. And, as a note, the question could also be phrased, in a larger way: is anything required of you or any other person in their life to avoid a bad or undesired state after life, including Hell, Rebirth/reincarnation, etc., or to get you a specific positive state after life, such as Heaven, Enlightenment/Nirvana, etc.? I hope that makes it clearer.
The present moment lived well is all that is required, IMHO.
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Old 1st April 2008, 05:11 AM   #5
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is anything required of you or any other person in their life to avoid a bad or undesired state after life?
What about a bad or undesirable state during one's life?

Personally, I'm a fan of re-eternalizing the temporal or re-temporalizing the eternal; in the end it amounts to the same thing: collapsing the "Platonic gap". Wittgenstein said quite well when he wrote:

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Death is not an event in life: we do not live to experience death. If we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration but timelessness, then eternal life belongs to those who live in the present.
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Old 1st April 2008, 03:23 PM   #6
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Re: The Necessity of Action

If death is the end, then pains in life mean nothing. And if death is not the end, then things we do in life may or may not affect what's after death. I was going based on the second one, since the first one would not really fit my question.
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Old 17th January 2009, 09:34 PM   #7
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In my opinion , your actions define your character
As I believe in God, I think that it is your character that will count in what will happen with you after you die...............I really don't believe in material Hell that is suposed to scare little kids.......as I don't believe in material Heaven in which you will play tenis with God looking like an old great-white-beard man.
I know many people that are nothing else than "mean", they are officially christians but really don't believe in anything. Their actions are really against every ,not just religious, but ethic principles. And I know many ateists that have clearly deserved a place in Heaven, even if it dosen't exist for them..........Actions are the supreme tool in which we build our character............
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