Examing Death...

buzzlightyear1982 · 3rd June 2006, 10:32 PM

"Death is tha goal of all life" Sigmond Freud
Do you agree or disagree?
Why?

scameter · 4th June 2006, 03:35 AM

Does life has a conscious goal?

buzzlightyear1982 · 8th June 2006, 04:32 PM

Freud thought so...myself I haven't found the "meaning" of my life yet. So if life doesn't have "conscious meaning" ...why are we here?

Smurf · 8th June 2006, 05:03 PM

Quote:

why are we here

to find the answer

Quote:

"Death is tha goal of all life" Sigmond Freud
Do you agree or disagree?

if this was a conscious goal in all life then we would have descended into oblivion many years ago, no I do not agree with this but I think that we are disadvantaged by not having the exact circumstances with which Freud formulated this statement

buzzlightyear1982 · 8th June 2006, 09:53 PM

Forgive me but the quote itself is unimportant, it is the underline subject of the quote and that is death. What is the definition of an oblivion? It's all about interpitation, for you an oblivion is one thing and to me an oblivion is another. You disagree with freud...I don't. The quote is like a poem...noone knows the real meaning behind it except the one who said it. Unless we ask freud himself we can only speculate and research what could be the meaning but we really can't be sure B)

Thomas Knierim · 9th June 2006, 08:58 AM

I disagree. Death is the ultimate consequence of life and at the same time the precondition for life. Saying that it is the goal of life, however, muddles things up. Are you sure the quotation is accurate?

Cheers, Thomas

scameter · 9th June 2006, 12:31 PM

Well, metaphorically it would seem as if death is the chronological goal of life. But, logically, for something to have a goal, it must be a conscious being/entity, and I have never heard of life being such. Of course, I could simply be ignorant on the subject; but even in my ignorance I would think it unreasonable to think life has a goal, or goals. But, anything is possible.

buzzlightyear1982 · 9th June 2006, 03:32 PM

The quote is accurate! The thing to remember about freud is that he was a neurologist first and a psychoanalytic second. So it is really hard to tell how he was thinking. So when he made the quote their was no way to tell if he was being the neurologist or the psychoanalytic. However, freud also said

"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar"

So now the question is are simple over thinking death or underthinking death B)

TruthSeeker · 10th June 2006, 01:58 AM

Death is inevitable and is, by definition, inseparate from life. Life without death, wouldn't be life. Everything someday comes to an end. That's the poetry of the universe... B)

buzzlightyear1982 · 10th June 2006, 04:01 AM

I agree with you when you say death is inevitable, and I also agree with you when you say life isn't life without death B) So now that we agree on that the question we must explore now is...what happens to the human soul after death? Do we all just fade away like our bodies and memories? Or is their a bigger purpose for us after we leave our bodies? And if there is a reasonable posibility that we can remained after our bodies have faded...does that affect our path in the after life?

10th June 2006, 01:58 AM	#9
TruthSeeker Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 867	Death is inevitable and is, by definition, inseparate from life. Life without death, wouldn't be life. Everything someday comes to an end. That's the poetry of the universe... B) __________________ God has created children so that we may smile in the midst of tears..... A whole lifetime is not enough to explore the immesurable beauty that this universe has to offer. There's nothing more amusing then the high improbability of my own existance. If something is true, then that something is something quite out of the ordinary. "We make a living by what we get We make a life by what we give" -- Winston Churchill

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3rd June 2006, 10:32 PM	#1
buzzlightyear1982 Advanced Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California Posts: 341	"Death is tha goal of all life" Sigmond Freud Do you agree or disagree? Why?

4th June 2006, 03:35 AM	#2
scameter Tankare Join Date: May 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 6,224	Does life has a conscious goal?

8th June 2006, 04:32 PM	#3
buzzlightyear1982 Advanced Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California Posts: 341	Freud thought so...myself I haven't found the "meaning" of my life yet. So if life doesn't have "conscious meaning" ...why are we here?

8th June 2006, 09:53 PM	#5
buzzlightyear1982 Advanced Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California Posts: 341	Forgive me but the quote itself is unimportant, it is the underline subject of the quote and that is death. What is the definition of an oblivion? It's all about interpitation, for you an oblivion is one thing and to me an oblivion is another. You disagree with freud...I don't. The quote is like a poem...noone knows the real meaning behind it except the one who said it. Unless we ask freud himself we can only speculate and research what could be the meaning but we really can't be sure B)

9th June 2006, 08:58 AM	#6
Thomas Knierim Administrator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Chiang Mai, Thailand Posts: 2,031	I disagree. Death is the ultimate consequence of life and at the same time the precondition for life. Saying that it is the goal of life, however, muddles things up. Are you sure the quotation is accurate? Cheers, Thomas

9th June 2006, 12:31 PM	#7
scameter Tankare Join Date: May 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 6,224	Well, metaphorically it would seem as if death is the chronological goal of life. But, logically, for something to have a goal, it must be a conscious being/entity, and I have never heard of life being such. Of course, I could simply be ignorant on the subject; but even in my ignorance I would think it unreasonable to think life has a goal, or goals. But, anything is possible.

9th June 2006, 03:32 PM	#8
buzzlightyear1982 Advanced Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California Posts: 341	The quote is accurate! The thing to remember about freud is that he was a neurologist first and a psychoanalytic second. So it is really hard to tell how he was thinking. So when he made the quote their was no way to tell if he was being the neurologist or the psychoanalytic. However, freud also said "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar" So now the question is are simple over thinking death or underthinking death B)

10th June 2006, 04:01 AM	#10
buzzlightyear1982 Advanced Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California Posts: 341	I agree with you when you say death is inevitable, and I also agree with you when you say life isn't life without death B) So now that we agree on that the question we must explore now is...what happens to the human soul after death? Do we all just fade away like our bodies and memories? Or is their a bigger purpose for us after we leave our bodies? And if there is a reasonable posibility that we can remained after our bodies have faded...does that affect our path in the after life?