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			<title>human cancer</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:55:55 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>My grandfather, after having a triumphant recovery from a quadruple bypass surgery,  was diagnosed with breast cancer.  The man is old and wise...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>My grandfather, after having a triumphant recovery from a quadruple bypass surgery,  was diagnosed with breast cancer.  The man is old and wise beyond life and decided that he isnt going to have it treated.  I respect him more than anyone i know for that reason.   my thought on this is not mourning,  i only shared for a lead up.  My evil tactics.<br />
     if I were to examine a cancer or a virus inside a living body through a microscope, and watch is grow and spread and destroy,  would it be any different than standing on the moon with a telescope watching the progression of life on earth.  I wonder what would appear to be the deadliest virus on the planet.   when you actually step back and look,  the core of humanities beliefs and religions follow the same blueprint as a thriving disease. we seem to be as ignorant as the aids virus. <br />
    On a positive note,  I have notices an enormous increase in solar energy in the last 6 months.  no thanks to slack ass obama.  It shouldnt really be on him though,  Im just in attack mode.</div>

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			<dc:creator>liquidharmony</dc:creator>
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			<title>TBV on bravenewtraveler.com</title>
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			<description>Thebigview.com was featured today the on the travel news website bravenewtraveler.com.  Have a look at: Philosophy Worth Spreading...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Thebigview.com was featured today the on the travel news website bravenewtraveler.com.  Have a look at: <a href="http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/11/19/the-big-view-thomas-knierim-on-philosophy-worth-spreading/" target="_blank">Philosophy Worth Spreading</a>. Thank you, Ian, for the interview.<br />
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Cheers, Thomas</div>

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			<dc:creator>Thomas Knierim</dc:creator>
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			<title>Utilitarianism and Kantianism applied to abortion.</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:57:11 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I am taking an Honors Philosophy course in Ethics. Half of the students in my class are not doing very well; and they decided to start a study group....</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I am taking an Honors Philosophy course in Ethics. Half of the students in my class are not doing very well; and they decided to start a study group. I am doing perfectly fine in the class myself; however, someone requested that I be present. I have a long midday break and I was curious to see what others had to say about the subjects, because I think exchanging ideas and brainstorming never hurt anybody. Nonetheless, we didn’t get much studying done, as the entire thing consisted of children bickering about how dumb they thought the course was.<br />
Thus, I thought I might have some better luck at an actual discussion here.<br />
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The discussion topic was abortion, and how we might evaluate it from a Utilitarian and a Kantian approach.<br />
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The best I can come up with off the top of my head is that the Kantian need for duty would call for a mother to protect her child at all costs, in addition to the duty to uphold the sanctity of human life. As far as Utilitarianism goes, If you are aiming for the greatest amount of happiness, than you don’t want a child to be born into a life that will be full of suffering; and ultimately if the procedure is done early enough, than the child has not yet developed a capacity to feel pain, while meanwhile the mother is very much alive, and might very well suffer as a result of having the child.<br />
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(This is not a trick question. Yes, I am well aware of the debate regarding if the theories ever actually solve anything, and how nothing can ever really be settled or resolved. Yet, that is not the point of the query)<br />
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What does everyone think? and can they come up with any decent pro-choice arguments for both theories?</div>

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			<dc:creator>Quiet Ramblings</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[Saw Moore's "Capitalism:" My Economic Philosophy The Same?]]></title>
			<link>http://www.thebigview.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3928&amp;goto=newpost</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:55:11 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[What a great film. Anyway, I've moderately changed my stance on socialism vs. regulated capitalism. If we see a systemic overhaul of the American...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>What a great film. Anyway, I've moderately changed my stance on socialism vs. regulated capitalism. If we see a systemic overhaul of the American system to a democratic socialist system that has been proven to work, and if this transition isn't a bloody and destructive transition, I would be willing to ditch capitalism entirely and support this new system. This is fair. But I think such a transition, while preferable, is unlikely. That's not to say I dislike the idea at all: a democratic socialist system with none of the cultural corruption of the old system is a great idea. Wholeheartedly I support this. But if it doesn't happen, I still support regulated capitalism.<br />
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I believe in the idea that any system or power structure which was formerly oppressive can become non-oppressive with nothing but a change in spirit. The more unjust the system is, the more unlikely a change in spirit will happen. But it is still possible to have one. And some very seemingly little (although perhaps culturally very big) changes to our current system will make it a non-oppressive form of regulated capitalism. For example; anyone right now has the ability to go to Wall St. and buy stocks. People have a direct stake in the actions of corporations on Wall St. The only problem is, right now, they have no say in the decisions made at Wall St. If the public were to somehow be granted a direct say in Wall St. decisions, we would have an ethical form of regulated capitalism. This is almost exactly the same as democratic socialism, but it remains capitalism so long as a small group of people get to make big decisions. I don't have a problem with a small group of people making big decisions as long as they are held accountable for those decisions, and as long as there are institutional safeguards in place to make sure these big decisions aren't unethical.<br />
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In America we created an executive office and gave decision making powers to a group of senators and representatives, but we didn't call it a democratic monarchy, we called it a democracy. What difference would there have been if we called it a democratic monarchy instead of a democracy? Probably some, but I don't think much. Perhaps it would have improved ties with Europe. On the other hand, perhaps it would have negatively influenced the efficacy of similar revolutions in Europe. I don't know. But there's nothing to say that the idea to call America a democratic monarchy wouldn't have been better. I would like to point out that my idea of regulated capitalism would look exactly the same as my idea of democratic socialism—no change whatsoever. I still like to call it regulated capitalism.<br />
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I think there are two of several possible outcomes if America becomes a socialist country. One is that you have a change of name with no substantive change of the system. Someone decides to label America a socialist country, but really, the same people are running the show, and the same types of decisions are being made. Another is when you have a complete overhaul of the system, name and all, but a similar or perhaps worse system takes its place. This is what happened in the Soviet Union and communist China. If we begin talking about systemic changes, we should be wary of overzealous decisions that are badly made. I am not too eager to change anything necessarily, unless the outcome is demonstratively better than the prior situation, in a great number of ways.<br />
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When Brittan became a representative democracy, they kept the royal family. What is so bad about that? If America becomes a democratic socialist system, is there really any harm in keeping the top 1% or whatever group of people wealthy? I argue not. As long as they have no way to do real damage with that money, I see no problem whatsoever. We can change the system we have in ways that don't involve complete overhauls, or overzealous decisions. We can keep capitalism, if we make it ethical.</div>

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			<dc:creator>MultipleTentacles</dc:creator>
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			<title>Practice, Practice, Practice!</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:18:52 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[A lost visitor to New York City stopped to ask an urbanite, "Could you tell me how to get to Carnegie Hall?"  To which the urbanite responded, "Yes...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>A lost visitor to New York City stopped to ask an urbanite, &quot;Could you tell me how to get to Carnegie Hall?&quot;  To which the urbanite responded, &quot;Yes sir!&quot; ; &quot;Practice, practice, practice!&quot;<br />
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And the same can be said for becoming a Buddhist.  Begin with study of the suttas.  Make up one's mind as to the nature of the path we wish to travel, then all that is left is, &quot;Practice, practice, practice.&quot;<br />
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Question is, &quot;What do we practice, and when do we practice it.&quot;<br />
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In my case I am large on study, but small on meditation.  Significant on mindfullness, but quick to reflexively move into my pea brained idiot mode.  Seems like, if my intuition is correct, I need to practice those things at which I am not as skilled as necessary to elimnate all of my numerous attachments.<br />
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How about you?</div>

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			<dc:creator>Ron-the-Elder</dc:creator>
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			<title>Communication and REALity</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:59:49 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Communication.  Language.  The ability to put thoughts and ideas into words is what separates us from the rest of the living things on this plant. ...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Communication.  Language.  The ability to put thoughts and ideas into words is what separates us from the rest of the living things on this plant.  So there is no mistaking that language and communication are the greatest assets of mankind.  Right?  Wrong.  Our greatest gift has long been our greatest curse.<br />
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Language not only separated us from the rest of the world's living organisms, it made us lose our way.  The way has been lost for so long now that it may never come back, at least not without someone reminding the world of what they've forgotten, but what they intrinsically know.<br />
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Once a language came into being, people stopped depending on what they knew and they began to invent stories.  They made myths and spread them, and the world was lost before the Jesus of Christianity ever walked the earth.  Buildings sprang up, every man woman and child have a cell phone and they go to church to hear the priest or pastor tell them about what's waiting for them in &quot;heaven.&quot;  You watch and listen to movies and music and the whole time, you don't realize you're very much asleep to the real reality.  You sit at a desk at work, and that's very real to you.  Money is very real to you, possessions are very real.  But they are only real because they've always been real, never questioned, never truly thought out and ultimately, if you dig deep enough, you realize that they are very unreal.  So then, what is real?<br />
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Reality - it's a word, a part of this invented language, and it is used to communicate the idea of what is real to us.  Well, reality, for lack of a better word, is whatever you make it.  This world is whatever we perceive it to be, and currently the entire modern civilized world sadly perceives life as the never ending thirst for more.  More money, more possessions, more freedom, and it goes on.  Gaining more and more of these ideas that were turned into words and turned into needs and suddenly, the world is very different.  Instead of being a part of the world, somewhere along the way the world became a tool to serve us.  Something that we use, not something that we are.  So as man gained more and more words and more and more ideas, we continued to get farther and farther away from the real truth.  <br />
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I have no doubt that there are millions of people all over the world knowing in their heart that something isn't right.  They are looking for an epiphany, a meaning to it all.  You already know exactly what's happening and what it all means, you just have to wake up and remember.  In the most pure sense of the word, the world is meaningless.  Not in a depressing or sad way by any means.  The world that man has invented today is so shallow and meaningless that people aren't able to dig deep enough into their mind to truly wake up.  We want to be awake and our bodies and minds, which are very much the same thing, not separate entities, are begging us to wake up.  To remember what's in our hearts.  What we already know.  This is a big beautiful world and whatever we want it to be is exactly what it is.  But from the second you came out of the womb, you began hearing the stories that your family told you, they began programming you and it continued through school and into the world.  But for those who are brave enough to really question EVERYTHING that society tells them, for those who have the courage to ask &quot;but, why?&quot; the journey begins.  You begin to realize that man as a whole lost his way long ago.  You realize the fact that your current reality was invented and dictated to you through your entire life, but it's ultimately up to you if you agree with it or not.  Begin to question all things, look back at the very first ideas that were put into words - religion, for instance, and whether or not it truly makes sense.  Ask yourself if, while living in a modern democratic republic, you truly believe that the universe is monotheistic.  Do you truly believe that there is a tyrant in the sky with a golden hammer and lightning bolt making sure you don't steal, cheat or kill?  This sounds like the kind of thinking that was common when it was first invented, yet for some reason, people are scared to let this train of thinking go.  Don't believe what you hear simply because it's been the societal norm for thousands of years.  In truth, stealing, cheating and killing wouldn't even exist if man were on the correct path, because they couldn't.  Man invented these acts, gave them words and turned them into the norms that you've heard about since emerging from the womb.  <br />
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We are as much a part of the energy of this universe as anything else.  We are not crawling on a rock that's floating in a vast expanse of blackness, we are very much a part of that rock.  We are the same energy as the rest of it, and our enlarged brains, invented languages, and most importantly, our preconceived notions and ideas, are keeping us from truly seeing the truth. The truth that life is whatever you want it to be.  That, like your parents always said but you never believed, you truly CAN do anything you put your mind to.  It's simply a decision.  The best realization is that you are finally awake, that you've freed yourself from the clutter and programming that you've been receiving since infancy.  Go ahead and smile, because to do anything else at this point, with this information and knowledge, would be silly.<br />
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Love all things, because love is the only real emotion.  Anger takes away all control and is a very primitive emotion.  Sadness is a more difficult emotion to ward off, but again, if you have realized the truth, why would you ever be sad?  This world is perfect just as it is.  I just hope that man as a whole makes this realization and wakes up from thousands of years of programming before it's too late.  Because make no mistake, eventually… it will be too late.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Peaceofmind</dc:creator>
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			<title>Acquiring a database versus creation of understanding</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:32:56 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Acquiring a database versus creation of understanding

The success of our production and consumption society is structured upon our highly...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Acquiring a database versus creation of understanding<br />
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The success of our production and consumption society is structured upon our highly rationalized capacity to develop, organize and utilize knowledge designed to encourage individuals to become highly specialized experts in narrow specialties.  Our industrial base demands experts who require little understanding except in very narrow specialties.<br />
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Most parents desire that their children graduate from higher education with a credential entitling them to a good job with a high salary.  The student of higher education in the United States graduates with a large database of specialized knowledge designed to permit that graduate to immediately fit into a large organization of specialized professionals.<br />
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Our Colleges and Universities have successfully met the demands of society and are the envy of the world. Higher education has learned to produce graduates with a large database of highly specialized knowledge.<br />
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Unfortunately the intrinsic value of education has been lost as a result.  We have facilitated the maximization of production and consumption at the cost of losing contact with the original value of education.  <br />
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<b>I do not think that efficient assimilation of information into knowledge is our problem; I think our problem is creating meaning from what we do know.</b>  <br />
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It appears to me that humans have a great propensity to acquire knowledge but a miniscule capacity for understanding the meaning of that acquired knowledge.  I would liken the basic human cognitive nature to be similar to that displayed by the United States Intelligence Agency in the 9/11 fiasco.  We had the dots but did not have the capacity to connect the dots.  Our educational system displays a vast capacity to graduate individuals with extensive databases but little understanding.<br />
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I would say that the intrinsic value of education is wisdom.  I would define wisdom as a sensitive synthesis of broad knowledge, deep understanding and solid judgment.  Our universities produce individuals capable of developing a great technology but lacking the wisdom to manage the world modified by that technology.   Higher education has become a commodity.<br />
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The relationship of sex to love as compared with the relationship of knowledge to understanding might help to clarify my point.  <br />
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Sex and knowledge are easily acquired and easily forgotten.  Love and understanding requires an intense investment of the person.  Sex can alienate, thus making love more problematic; just as extensive specialized knowledge, which leads to intellectual arrogance, can alienate, thus making understanding problematic. One can get sex but one must create love. Love and understanding are something to seek and work for and may or may not happen. Carl Sagan is quoted as having written; “Understanding is a kind of ecstasy.”<br />
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 When we speak of a cornucopia of information and our attempt to assimilate that info in a coherent manner so as to facilitate our survival I wonder if we might not be missing something important.  Our DNA was developed over millions of years based upon the prevailing environment.  We have, as a result of our very successful rationalization of knowledge acquisition developed a far different universe than what our genes have prepared us for.  <br />
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<b>All of our fundamental capabilities make it possible for us to assimilate and organize great deals of information and to react to that knowledge in ways to assure survival in the world of the past.  However, what do we do in this very different world of technology?</b>  <br />
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Conversion of input stimuli into knowledge was sufficient before but perhaps our future success in the world indicates that we may have to seriously modify our response to the world.  Up to this point we have been able to successfully navigate a world where knowledge with little understanding is sufficient.  Perhaps such a situation is reaching a climax.  Perhaps we must adjust to becoming much more adept at understanding.<br />
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<b>The success of our production and consumption society is structured upon our highly rationalized capacity to develop, organize and utilize knowledge; this process is designed to encourage individuals to become highly specialized experts in narrow specialties.  Our industrial base demands experts who require little understanding except in very narrow specialties.</b></div>

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			<dc:creator>coberst</dc:creator>
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			<title>The Necessity of Doubt</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:01:58 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Doubt is the subjective condition that belongs to mind which judges the facts, where the mind is suspended between two or more propositions and is...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Doubt is the subjective condition that belongs to mind which judges the facts, where the mind is suspended between two or more propositions and is not able to assent to any of them.  Is doubt necessary to our attainment of knowledge and aspiration to a higher consciousness?  Or is it a limitation to these, leaving us in mistrust, suspicion or uncertainty and without belief?  Is doubt necessary?  Does it exclude faith?<br />
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Aristotle believed doubt to be preliminary to philosophical inquiry and the only means by which the necessary removal of prejudice may be effected.  Bacon believed that the scholastic proof of a proposition or thesis begins by the statement of doubts or contrary arguments.<br />
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Thomas Huxley gave the name agnosticism to the state: “of being strictly doubtful towards all that lies beyond sense-experience.”  Pragmatism regards all reality as doubtful, and truth as perpetually changing with the progress of human thought.<br />
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What do YOU think?</div>

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			<dc:creator>Molly Brogan</dc:creator>
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			<title>Ignorance and Ideology in an Open Society</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:03:33 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Ignorance and Ideology in an Open Society

*Karl Popper argues, in his book The Open Society and Its Enemies, that all ideology shares a common...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Ignorance and Ideology in an Open Society<br />
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<b>Karl Popper argues, in his book <i>The Open Society and Its Enemies</i>, that all ideology shares a common characteristic; a belief in infallibility. <br />
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The concept Popper illustrates in this book sounds much like the concept of a liberal democracy but his concept is more epistemological than political. It is based upon our imperfect comprehension of reality more than our structure of society.  Such infallibility is an impossibility, which leads such ideological practitioners to use force to substantiate their views and such repression brings about a closed society.</b><br />
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Popper proposed that the open society is constructed on the recognition that our comprehension of reality is not perfect—there is realty beyond our comprehension and our will cannot compensate for that lack of comprehension. Even though the will of the power structure can manipulate the opinions of the citizens sooner or later reality will defeat the will. Truth does matter and success will not always override truth—truth being reality.<br />
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The Old Testament is an example of a tribal society and thus a closed society; the New Testament is an example of universal morality determined by universal recognition of human rights, which results in an open society.<br />
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George Soros “was born in Budapest, Hungary on August 12, 1930. He survived the Nazi occupation of Budapest and left communist Hungary in 1947 for England, where he graduated from the London School of Economics (LSE). While a student at LSE, Soros became familiar with the work of the philosopher Karl Popper, who had a profound influence on his thinking and later on his professional and philanthropic activities… In 1956, Soros moved to the United States, where he began to accumulate a large fortune through an international investment fund he founded and managed… Soros has been active as a philanthropist since 1979.”<br />
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<b>Philosopher, tycoon, philanthropist, author, and international political activist George Soros says in his book <i>The Age of Fallibility</i> that “An open society accepts our fallibility; a closed society denies it.”<br />
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Soros declares that America is an open society that does not comprehend or abide by its principles.</b> He argues that the principles of an open society are not a product of the Enlightenment. The Enlightenment projected a reality that was in many ways separate from reason, and it was reason’s job to discover reality. In this view of reality, wherein reason had an independence from reality, reality could know absolute truth. “For instance, the theory of perfect competition was based on the assumption of perfect knowledge.”<br />
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Enlightenment was an age of hope in which reality was a virgin territory waiting to be discovered by reason. “The scope for reason seemed unlimited”. Reason has discovered a great deal and one very important truth is that there is no absolute truth; humans are fallible. <br />
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<b>Although America is an open society, Americans do not comprehend why it is so and thus many contradictions result. Our government was formed on the principle of divided powers and not on the recognition of fallibility. In fact, the Declaration states a conceived absolute truth, “We hold these truths to be self-evident.” The preamble of the Declaration of Independence is based upon natural rights while the text is based upon universal human rights.<br />
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An open society is constructed on the understanding that there is no absolute truth; there is a reality beyond our knowledge and that reality will contradict our will at times. America has often pursued success without regard for truth. Truth is easily manipulated or power often overrides truth as a result we often have little concern for truth. Soros calls this a feel-good society wherein society is unwilling to confront unpleasant realities.</b><br />
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An important consideration is that the people must believe in the value of an open society for that type of society to succeeds and flourish. In an open society ‘truth matters’; when the people become accustomed to the prevalence of power or ideology determining actions that society soon gives up the commitment to truth. <br />
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A feel-good society is not committed to truth and is soon deprived of the essence of an open society. When this principle is lost so might the open society. “Intellectual honesty and integrity are the values that America needs to rediscover if it is to recover.”<br />
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Americans seek entertainment rather than understanding. In an open society business seeks to give the citizens what they want provided that fits within the profit motive upon which business is constructed. Often business must step in to guide public desires to fit business interests. In our society the media, wherein the critical faculty generally lay, tends to provide the people what they clamor for, thus the societies critical faculty is steadily diminished and so the bulwark of an open society.</div>

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			<dc:creator>coberst</dc:creator>
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			<title>Life (on BBC)</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:34:05 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I have been watching the new TV series Life (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00lbpcy), and just like all the other nature programs produced by the...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have been watching the new TV series <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00lbpcy" target="_blank">Life</a>, and just like all the other nature programs produced by the BBC, it is truly phenomenal.  The footage is unbelievable, and what people have to go through in order to capture this footage is worthy of the a show of it's own.  I suppose that is why they dedicate a section of each episode, titled &quot;On Location&quot;, to this task of capturing these glimpses of nature on film.<br />
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Watching only the first four episodes I've seen adaptations and behaviour in the animal kingdom that I simply never would have expected to see in this lifetime.  Clans of hyenas overtaking prides of lions for a meal, fish that literally climb the rocky cliffs of a waterfall to reach fresh water pools, and geckos that are so small and water repellent that they cannot sink.<br />
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And like every other BBC series I have seen on the topic of nature, it is narrated by Sir David Attenborough.  In my mind his voice has simply become synonymous with the sensations of fascination and wonder with the natural world. :thumbsup:</div>

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			<title>The Noble Eight Fold Path a.k.a  The Middle Way</title>
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magga
'path'. 

1. For the 4 supermundane paths (lokuttara-magga), s. ariya-puggala - 
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				magga<br />
'path'. <br />
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1. For the 4 supermundane paths (lokuttara-magga), s. ariya-puggala - <br />
2. The Eightfold Path (atthangika-magga) is the path leading to the extinction of suffering, i.e. the last of the 4 Noble Truths (sacca), namely: <br />
Wisdom (paññ&#257;) III.<br />
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1. Right view (samm&#257;-ditthi) <br />
2. Right thought (samm&#257;-sankappa) <br />
Morality (s&#299;la) I.<br />
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3. Right speech (samm&#257;-v&#257;c&#257;) <br />
4. Right bodily action (samm&#257;-kammanta) <br />
5. Right livelihood (samm&#257;-&#257;j&#299;va) <br />
Concentration (sam&#257;dhi) II.<br />
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6. Right effort (samm&#257;-v&#257;y&#257;ma) <br />
7. Right mindfulness (samm&#257;-sati) <br />
8. Right concentration (samm&#257;-sam&#257;dhi) <br />
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Right view or right understanding (samm&#257;-ditthi) is the understanding of the 4 Noble Truths about the universality of suffering (unsatisfactoriness), of its origin, its cessation, and the path leading to that cessation. - See the Discourse on 'Right Understanding' (M. 9, tr. and Com. in 'R. Und.').<br />
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Right thought (samm&#257;-sankappa): thoughts free from sensuous desire, from ill-will, and cruelty.<br />
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Right speech (samm&#257;-v&#257;c&#257;): abstaining from lying, tale-bearing, harsh language, and foolish babble.<br />
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Right bodily action (samm&#257;-kammanta): abstaining from killing, stealing, and unlawful sexual intercourse.<br />
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Right livelihood (samm&#257;-&#257;j&#299;va): abstaining from a livelihood that brings harm to other beings, such as trading in arms, in living beings, intoxicating drinks, poison; slaughtering, fishing, soldiering, deceit, treachery soothsaying, trickery, usury, etc.<br />
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Right effort (samm&#257;-v&#257;y&#257;ma): the effort of avoiding or overcoming evil and disadvantageous things, and of developing and maintaining advantageous things (s. padh&#257;na).<br />
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Right mindfulness (samm&#257;-sati): mindfulness and awareness in contemplating body, feelings, mind, and mind-objects (s. sati, satipatth&#257;na).<br />
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Right concentration (samm&#257;-sam&#257;dhi): concentration of mind associated with advantageous (kusala) consciousness, which eventually may reach the absorptions (jh&#257;na). Cf. sam&#257;dhi.<br />
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There are to be distinguished 2 kinds of concentration, mundane (lokiya) and supermundane (lokuttara) concentration. The latter is associated with those states of consciousness known as the 4 supermundane paths and fruitions (s. ariya-puggala). As it is said in M.117:<br />
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&quot;I tell you, o monks, there are 2 kinds of right view: the understanding that it is good to give alms and offerings, that both good and evil actions will bear fruit and will be followed by results.... This, o monks, is a view which, though still subject to the fermentations, is meritorious, yields worldly fruits, and brings good results. But whatever there is of wisdom, of penetration, of right view conjoined with the path - the holy path being pursued, this is called the supermundane right view (lokuttara-samm&#257;-ditthi), which is not of the world, but which is supermundane and conjoined with the path.&quot;<br />
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In a similar way the remaining links of the path are to be understood.<br />
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As many of those who have written about the Eightfold Path have misunderstood its true nature, it is therefore appropriate to add here a few elucidating remarks about it, as this path is fundamental for the understanding and practice of the Buddha's teaching.<br />
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First of all, the figurative expression 'path' should not be interpreted to mean that one has to advance step by step in the sequence of the enumeration until, after successively passing through all the eight stages, one finally may reach one's destination, Nibb&#257;na. If this really were the case, one should have realized, first of all, right view and penetration of the truth, even before one could hope to proceed to the next steps, right thought and right speech; and each preceding stage would be the indispensable foundation and condition for each succeeding stage. In reality, however, the links 3-5 constituting moral training (s&#299;la), are the first 3 links to be cultivated, then the links 6-8 constituting mental training (sam&#257;dhi), and at last right view, etc. constituting wisdom (paññ&#257;).<br />
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It is, however, true that a really unshakable and safe foundation to the path is provided only by right view which, starting from the tiniest germ of faith and knowledge, gradually, step by step, develops into penetrating insight (vipassan&#257;) and thus forms the immediate condition for the entrance into the 4 supermundane paths and fruits of holiness, and for the realization of Nibb&#257;na. Only with regard to this highest form of supermundane insight, may we indeed say that all the remaining links of the path are nothing but the outcome and the accompaniments of right view.<br />
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Regarding the mundane (lokiya) eightfold path, however, its links may arise without the first link, right view.<br />
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Here it must also be emphasized that the links of the path not only do not arise one after the other, as already indicated, but also that they, at least in part, arise simultaneously as inseparably associated mental factors in one and the same state of consciousness. Thus, for instance, under all circumstances at least 4 links are inseparably bound up with any karmically advantageous consciousness, namely 2, 6, 7 and 8, i.e. right thought, right effort, right mindfulness and right concentration (M. 117), so that as soon as any one of these links arises, the three others also do so. On the other hand, right view is not necessarily present in every advantageous state of consciousness.<br />
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Magga is one of the 24 conditions (s. paccaya 18).<br />
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Literature: <br />
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The Noble Eightfold Path and its Factors Explained, by Ledi Sayadaw (WHEEL 245/247). - <br />
The Buddha's Ancient Path, by Piyadassi Thera (BPS).- <br />
The Noble Eightfold Path, by Bhikkhu Bodhi (WHEEL 308/311).
			
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			<title>Is Buddhism a Religion?</title>
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			<description>So I was wondering whether there is a concrete definition for Buddhism. 
Is it following a certain script, mantra; is it a way of life; certain...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>So I was wondering whether there is a concrete definition for Buddhism. <br />
Is it following a certain script, mantra; is it a way of life; certain beliefs one holds to be true, or is it a methodology in which to view this world? etc...<br />
I'm asking this partially because I have two friends who are both Buddhist; or at least they both claim to be Buddhist yet they differ completely on what Buddhism entails. One believes it to be a religion in which you follow certain dogmas from certain texts, observe certain religious functions i.e fasting/mediating and following other (religious?) rituals.  While the other completely denies it as a religion; claiming it as just certain beliefs one holds to be true such as &quot;real awakening&quot; or &quot;liberation of suffering&quot;; although some of these beliefs intersect, others do not. So then what is the problem here, is it over the question of what Buddhism should be concerned with or is it their definition of what qualifies as a religion that needs to be flushed out. As Ian Dove what say do we have a problem with the content or the methodology? (Applied to both &quot;Buddhism&quot; and &quot;religion&quot;)</div>

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			<title>Humans seek to transcend nature via culture</title>
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			<description>Humans seek to transcend nature via culture

But Love has pitched his mansion in
The place of excrement.--Yates

“What will come of my whole life…Is...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Humans seek to transcend nature via culture<br />
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But Love has pitched his mansion in<br />
The place of excrement.--Yates<br />
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“What will come of my whole life…Is there any meaning in my life that the inevitable death awaiting me does not destroy?”—Tolstoy<br />
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In his Pulitzer Prize-winning book <i>The Denial of Death</i>, Ernest Becker suggests that we all create an artificial world to avoid confronting the hopelessness of the human condition.<br />
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The basic premise of <i>The Denial of Death</i> is that human civilization is ultimately an elaborate, symbolic defense mechanism against the knowledge of our mortality, which in turn acts as the emotional and intellectual response to our basic survival mechanism.<br />
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Meaning is number ONE.  What wo/man fears most is extinction, which includes insignificance.<br />
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<b>Wo/man wants assurance that their life has somehow counted; if not for her or his self then at least within the overall scheme of things.  If there is some kind of “judgment day” then I want to be in ‘that number’ that matter.  While alive I want to know that “I am somebody”.</b> <br />
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Religion is our primary means for responding to that basic need to be somebody.  Otto Rand says that all religions spring up “not so much from…fear of natural death as of final destruction.”<br />
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“It is culture itself that embodies the transcendence of death in some form or other, whether it appears as purely religious or not…culture itself is sacred, since it is the “religion” that assures in some way the perpetuation of its members.”<br />
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<b>Our dichotomy of sacred and secular aspects of social life is an egregious error.  There is no such thing as a distinction between sacred and secular in the symbolic affairs of sapiens.  Sacred is that which transcends the natural world while secular is that which is of the natural world.  In the world of symbolic affairs such distinctions do not hold.</b><br />
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“As soon as you have symbols you have artificial self-transcendence via culture.  Everything cultural is fabricated and given meaning by the mind, a meaning that is not given by physical nature.  Culture is in this sense “supernatural” and all systemizations of culture have in the end the same goal: to raise men above nature, to assure him that in some ways their lives count in the universe more than merely physical things count.”<br />
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Self-transcendence, i.e. transcending nature via culture, does not provide a simple means to deny the primacy of death; the terror of death still lurks beneath the veneer.  We have shifted the fear of death onto a new level of anxiety; we must “now hold for dear life onto the self-transcending meanings of the society in which we live…a new kind of instability and anxiety are created.”<br />
<br />
<b>In our attempt to deny evil, i.e. death, we bring a new and grotesque form of evil.  “It is man’s ingenuity, rather than his animal nature, that has given his fellow creatures such a bitter fate.”  Wo/man has, through ingenuity, heaped great evil on the world; far greater than could ever be created by our animal nature.</b><br />
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Quotes from <i>Escape from Evil</i>—Becker</div>

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			<title>ethical treatment of clones</title>
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			<description>clone refers to the method of creation it is disrespectful and evil to refer to people as they are in all certainty by the method of birth.  human...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>clone refers to the method of creation it is disrespectful and evil to refer to people as they are in all certainty by the method of birth.  human rights will extend to all people and animal and plants alike will be given the same rights.  what are we to eat?  i'm still working on this.:wallbash:</div>

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			<title>cloning</title>
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			<description>clones are real in this day they are not ethically allowed though to use star dust for existence because they prevent the existence of other unique...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>clones are real in this day they are not ethically allowed though to use star dust for existence because they prevent the existence of other unique beings.  they are however or have been essential but there will come a time when they are no longer needed and then they will with the understanding of infinity turn into an ocean to allow the creation of unique beings.  however in the expanse of infinity is it essential to have clones surely they are part of an infinite universe to.</div>

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			<title>conspiracy</title>
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			<description>conspiracy theory has been used in the media to affect the zeitgiest if everyone believes that our leaders are evil that is what they will become. ...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>conspiracy theory has been used in the media to affect the zeitgiest if everyone believes that our leaders are evil that is what they will become.  why has this been done to destroy us.  if you want your leaders to lead and not rule you must beam good thoughts at them they will not be able to resist doing good things and working for peace and perpetuation on earth in our time.:thumbsup:</div>

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			<title>zeitgeist</title>
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			<description>the media is controlling the zeitgeist.  peoples thought is influenced by what they watch on gogle box.  node points of the zeitgeist are the famous...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>the media is controlling the zeitgeist.  peoples thought is influenced by what they watch on gogle box.  node points of the zeitgeist are the famous and famous people are affected by the thoughts and expectations of others.  to many people thinking about someone being bad can cause them to be bad.   so think happy thoughts pray and have faith and we'll all be ok.:)</div>

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			<title>How can we create a personality we desire?</title>
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			<description>How can we create a personality we desire?

Personal heroism by means of individualism is a task requiring courage and self-confidence.   Courage and...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>How can we create a personality we desire?<br />
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Personal heroism by means of individualism is a task requiring courage and self-confidence.   Courage and self-confidence are characteristics of few sapiens, young or old.  It is a path less traveled because it imposes terrifying burdens; these burdens display themselves by isolation from the common herd.  “This move exposes the person to the sense of being completely crushed and annihilated because he sticks out so much, has to carry so much in himself.”<br />
<br />
Personal heroism demands that one exposes her self, i.e. s/he sticks out dramatically from the herd.  Those creative types who expose themselves so must create their own justification.  <b>Herein we find something that may seem illogical “the more you develop as a distinctive free and critical human being, the <i>more guilt</i> you have.  Your very work accuses you; it makes you feel inferior.  What right do you have to play God?”  By what authority do you presume to introduce new meaning into the world?</b><br />
<br />
Otto Rank was a colleague of Freud and, like Jung, carried theories far beyond those which Freud created.  “Freud’s reality psychology emphasized essentially the influence of outer factor, of the outer milieu, upon the development of the individual and the formation of character,…I [was] opposed to this biological principle, the spiritual principle which alone is meaningful in the development of the essentially human.”<br />
<br />
For Freud the id is the nucleus of being and it, the id, is subject to the natural laws.  In such a frame the personality consists of layers of identification that “form the basis of the parental super-ego.”  This might be properly considered to be the spiritual structure of the average individual, i.e. the average personality results from the natural influences developed against the naturally evolved super-ego.<br />
<br />
Such a theory accounts for the average but does not account for the two creative extremes: the creative type and the so-called “neurotic” type.   I would label the average personality to be a reactive individual; an individual who goes with the flow.  <br />
<br />
<b>There are two personality types that make up the proactive personality: one creative type squeezes him or her self into a tight ball in reaction to the inner and outer milieu, i.e. the so-called “neurotic” and the second creative type who creates a personality wherein the ego “is strong just in the degree to which it [i]is[i] the representative of this primal force and the strength of this force represented in the individual we call will.”<br />
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This second creative type, which Rank identifies as the creative type while he identifies the other creative type as the “neurotic”, creates “voluntarily from the impulsive elements and moreover to develop his standards beyond the identifications of the super-ego morality to an ideal formation which consciously guides and rules this creative will in terms of the personality.”<br />
<br />
“The essential point in this process is the fact that he evolves his ego ideal from himself, not merely on the ground of the given but also of self-chosen factors which he strives after consciously.”</b><br />
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Quotes from <i>Will Therapy and Truth and Reality</i> by Otto Rank</div>

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			<title>Can experimentalism loosen the grasp of tradition?</title>
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			<description>Can experimentalism loosen the grasp of tradition?

I remember watching the movie Fiddler on the Roof.  In this movie there was much talk, and...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Can experimentalism loosen the grasp of tradition?<br />
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I remember watching the movie <i>Fiddler on the Roof</i>.  In this movie there was much talk, and singing and dancing about <i>tradition</i>.  The story of the movie is, I think, about what happens when a people steeped in tradition are forced to deal with dramatic change.<br />
<br />
The rock of tradition continually meets the winds of change to produce a new tradition.  Tradition evolves and the rate of evolution marches ever faster as technology provides the metronomic beat of the march.  <br />
<br />
Cognitive science presently functions within the boundaries of two distinctly different paradigms.  The traditional and first generation paradigm, Artificial Intelligence, is founded upon the theory of mechanical manipulation of symbols by computer, has in the last few decades been challenged by the SGCS (Second Generation Cognitive Science) also known as <i>Experimentalism</i>.<br />
<br />
Cognitive science seeks to comprehend via empirical techniques answers to such questions as: What is reason, how do we organize experience, what is a conceptual system, and others.  These are not new questions but the answers derived via SGCS are new to science and a challenge to traditional philosophy.<br />
<br />
<i>Objectivism</i> is considered to be the traditional philosophical view.  “It has come out of two thousand years of philosophizing about the nature of reason.  It is still widely believed despite overwhelming empirical evidence against it.” <b>Objectivism is still widely held as valid because the empirical challenge to traditional knowledge, which is not within the domain of the natural sciences, takes generations to permeate the consciousness of the general pubic.  The general public learns such matters primarily via social osmosis.<br />
<br />
Cognitive science is in transition and categorization is the central issue defining the separation of the traditional view from the experimentalist view.</b>  <br />
<br />
Cognitive science has introduced revolutionary theories that, if true, will change dramatically the views of Western philosophy.  Advocates of the traditional view will, of course, “say that conceptual structure must have a neural <b>realization</b> in the brain, which just <b>happens</b> to reside in a body.  But they deny that anything about the body is essential for characterizing what concepts are.”  <br />
<br />
The cognitive science claim is that <b>”the very properties of concepts are created as a result of the way the brain and body are structured and the way they function in interpersonal relations and in the physical world.”</b>  <br />
<br />
The embodied-mind hypothesis therefore radically undercuts the perception/conception distinction.  In an embodied mind, it is conceivable that the <b>same neural system engaged in perception (or in bodily movements) plays a central role in conception.  Indeed, in recent neural modeling research, models of perceptual mechanisms and motor schemas can actually do conception work in language learning and in reasoning.</b><br />
<br />
A standard technique for checking out new ideas is to create computer models of the idea and subject that model to simulated conditions to determine if the model behaves as does the reality.  Such modeling techniques are used constantly in projecting behavior of meteorological parameters.<br />
<br />
Neural computer models have shown that the types of operations required to perceive and move in space require the very same type of capability associated with reasoning.  That is, neural models capable of doing all of the things that a body must be able to do when perceiving and moving can also perform the same kinds of actions associated with reasoning, i.e. inferring, categorizing, and conceiving.<br />
<br />
Our understanding of biology indicates that the body has a marvelous ability to do as any handyman does, i.e. make do with what is at hand.  The body would, it seems logical to assume, take these abilities that exist in all creatures that move and survive in space and with such fundamental capabilities reshape it through evolution to become what we now know as our ability to reason.  The first budding of the reasoning ability exists in all creatures that function as perceiving, moving, surviving, creatures.<br />
<br />
Cognitive science has, it seems to me, connected our ability to reason with our bodies in such away as to make sense out of connecting reason with our biological evolution in ways that Western philosophy has not done, as far as I know.<br />
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It seems to me that Western philosophical tradition as always tried to separate mind from body and in so doing has never been able to show how mind, as was conceived by this tradition, could be part of Darwin’s theory of natural selection.  Cognitive science now provides us with a comprehensible model for grounding all that we are both bodily and mentally into a unified whole that makes sense without all of the attempts to make mind as some kind of transcendent, mystical, reality unassociated with biology.<br />
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Quotes from <i>Philosophy in the Flesh</i> by Lakoff and Johnson</div>

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			<title>Dependent Origination</title>
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			<description>Before study, penetration, and observation of kamma and karmic processes one should first investigate Dependent Origination:


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				 Friends:<br />
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Evident yet Subtle are the Facts of the Dhamma! <br />
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Dependent origination becomes evident, when really seeing &amp; understanding:<br />
When this exists, that also comes into being. The seed initiates the plant...<br />
When this does not exist, that neither comes into being. No seed no plant...<br />
Wrong view of annihilation becomes evident, when seeing and understanding:<br />
All causes are connected with their resulting effect. Nothing just disappears!<br />
Wrong view of eternity becomes evident, when seeing and understanding:<br />
All states arise instantly as new phenomena. They were not there before...<br />
The characteristic of no-self becomes evident, when seeing &amp; understanding:<br />
That all states have no core and that their being depends on other conditions. <br />
The characteristic of impermanence becomes evident, when understanding:<br />
States rise &amp; fall instantly. After having been, they do never exist again!<br />
The characteristic of suffering becomes evident, when comprehending:<br />
All liked phenomena rise and fall. Their inevitable loss is an oppressive pain.  <br />
When these several truths, all aspects of the dependent origination, have <br />
become evident to the Buddhist disciple, then constructions appear to him <br />
as perpetually renewed: So all these states, it seems, not ever having been, <br />
come into existence and then immediately cease... Vism 632<br />
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More on these crucial core concepts:<br />
<a href="http://What-Buddha-Said.net/drops/V/Rise_and_Fall.htm" target="_blank">http://What-Buddha-Said.net/drops/V/Rise_and_Fall.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://What-Buddha-Said.net/drops/IV/Anatta_No_Self.htm" target="_blank">http://What-Buddha-Said.net/drops/IV/Anatta_No_Self.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://What-Buddha-Said.net/drops/II/What_is_Suffering.htm" target="_blank">http://What-Buddha-Said.net/drops/II..._Suffering.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://What-Buddha-Said.net/drops/Cohesive_Co-Origination.htm" target="_blank">http://What-Buddha-Said.net/drops/Co...rigination.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://What-Buddha-Said.net/drops/V/Dependent_Origination.htm" target="_blank">http://What-Buddha-Said.net/drops/V/...rigination.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://What-Buddha-Said.net/drops/III/Impermanence_Anicca.htm" target="_blank">http://What-Buddha-Said.net/drops/II...nce_Anicca.htm</a><br />
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Have a nicely evident day!<br />
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Friendship is the Greatest! <br />
Bhikkhu Sam&#257;hita _/\_ Sri Lanka ] <br />
<a href="http://What-Buddha-Said.net" target="_blank">http://What-Buddha-Said.net</a> <br />
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Evident yet Subtle...<br />
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Bhikkhu Samahita<br />
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