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coberst
5th December 2008, 08:18 PM
Major Moral Dilemma: It Started with Viagra

It is obvious even to the most casual observer (no Critical Thinking required) that we must quickly deal with the problem that medical technology has left on our door step. As a result of the success of medical technology we can prolong life ever more, every day, than the day before. I claim that this constantly extending the prolongation of life must quickly cease; we can no longer afford such a foolish unreflective behavior.

Bruce Hardy, a British citizen and cancer victim, was refused the funds, by British health officials, for a drug that could likely prolong his life for 6 more months. The drug treatment cost was estimated to be $54,000. His distraught wife said “Everybody should be allowed to have as much life as they can”.

“British authorities, after a storm of protest, are reconsidering their decision on the cancer drug and others.”

The introduction of the drug Viagra, by Pfizer, in 1998, panicked British health officials. They figured it might bankrupt the government’s health budget and thus placed restrictions on its use. Pfizer sued and the British government instituted a standard program, with the acronym NICE, for rationing health drugs.

“Before NICE, hospitals and clinics often came to different decisions about which drugs to buy, creating geographic disparities in care that led to outrage.”

“British Balance Benefit vs. Cost of Latest Drugs” New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/03/health/03nice.html?pagewanted=3&_r=1&hp

I have stated many times before that I was convinced that we have created a technology that is too powerful for our intellectually unsophisticated citizens to deal with. It seems to me that this particular dilemma does not require a great deal of sophistication to understand. This might be a perfect place to begin a nationwide (USA) Internet discourse directed at getting our intellectual arms around this problem and helping our government officials in an attempt to resolve this terrible dilemma.

Incidentally I am 74 years old, which I think qualifies me to push this matter without appearing to be a hypocrite.

coberst
7th December 2008, 07:47 PM
My post is not to provide answers but to engage the consciousness of the reader to the basic problem. Mine is not so much a question as it is a claim that we face some very serious moral questions that requires answers constructed on a foundation of courage, compassion, and sophistication. How can we stabilize world human population in a moral and sophisticated manner and how do we utilize our resources to best affect that important result?

Citizens must be sophisticated enough to recognize the problem or they will never allow an answer to be formulated. Most of our problems cannot be solved because our citizens are not sophisticated enough to recognize them and thus will not permit a solution until they face the abyss. Often when the abyss is here the solution is too late.

aviatrix
8th December 2008, 08:01 AM
Personally, if anyone tries to keep me here one minute past my time to go they better hope I'm in a coma 'til they do let me go. If I'm on my way out and someone ruins that I'm gonna really be mad! Even then, when I finally do get away, I might hang around and spook them a little bit before I go to my better place.

Coberst, don't you think that people are getting wise to this? More people are making living wills then ever before, desiring quality of life not quantity. I'm much more concerned about cloning.

schrodinger
8th December 2008, 01:23 PM
Personally, if anyone tries to keep me here one minute past my time to go they better hope I'm in a coma 'til they do let me go. If I'm on my way out and someone ruins that I'm gonna really be mad! Even then, when I finally do get away, I might hang around and spook them a little bit before I go to my better place.



:rofl:My sentiments exactly! However, there are many more people who think quite the opposite, trying desperately to find that elusive "fountain of youth", and mistakenly believing it is actually a fountain of pills! I do not believe in Euthanasia and I firmly believe everyone should live a full and meaningful life.
But I cannot see the point of artificially lengthening what is already a full life without adding the meaningful part as well. Long life simply for the sake of long life seems meaningless. If a person truly wants to be young again, maybe just letting a natural death take place is the best way to achieve that.
This can be a very senstive and emotional subject and it is easy to have one's words twisted and taken out of context so I can only speak for myself. I agree with Aviatrix in that each person should take responsibility and have a living will, and not leave the decision up to others who may be acting out of misguided emotion.

coberst
10th December 2008, 07:54 PM
”A 70-year-old woman in India gave birth to her first child, a girl, after undergoing infertility treatment, according to a report in the Daily Mail.

The mother, Rajo Devi, had been trying for 50 years to get pregnant with her 72-year-old husband, who had failed to become a father in two prior marriages. It was undetermined whose egg and sperm were used in the treatment, the newspaper reported.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28112285/

schrodinger
11th December 2008, 02:56 AM
How nice! This will be a big help to India's chronic shortage of people. This is an example of things being done just for the sake of seeing if they can be done. Sick.