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bito
26th August 2008, 10:12 PM
If a child should ask me, "who am I?", I would say "you are God expressing Himself as you!"

I would also say "no matter what the world says you are, no matter what name they try to give to you, remember always that you are God being you!" I would counsel that most of the world is not awakened yet as to their true identity, so that when meeting another God expression that believes that they are something other than the single "I" of God, be patient and kind, for your purpose for being here is to remind them of the truth of who they are, and if there is not love present in the reminding, they are likely not to hear the spirit of your words.

I would also say "if you have any questions about the living of you, go not to man for the answer, rather, go within you, where God's voice is, and ask God for the answer to your question about you, for only God knows how to live God."

Smurf
27th August 2008, 09:20 AM
heh

So if a homicidal maniac looks inside himself and the voices tell him to kill someone, that's alright. Cause, you know god was telling him to do it!
My quandry is that there is no way to clarify who's voice of "God" is the correct one. What's the reference point?

schrodinger
27th August 2008, 12:16 PM
heh

So if a homicidal maniac looks inside himself and the voices tell him to kill someone, that's alright. Cause, you know god was telling him to do it!
My quandry is that there is no way to clarify who's voice of "God" is the correct one. What's the reference point?


It is a big mistake to think you can discuss reality with an idealist with his head in the clouds. If that remark offends anyone, just remember it is God expressing God.

Cheers, God. :D

...
27th August 2008, 06:34 PM
..you all are correct...

bito
28th August 2008, 01:24 AM
Smurf

The reference point is your conscience, the invisible point of union where you, as the Question, meet God, the Answer.

The thoughts of a homicidal maniac would be those of good and evil, relative thoughts that appear to be moving within his mind. A mind that believes that he is being pulled one way or another between this and that, cannot hear the silent Voice of God. If he hears the command to "kill", that is the voice of his humanism speaking, his ego, the voice that declares that there is a separation between God and His Son.

God cannot kill, for God is Spirit, which means you, as His Expression, is Spirit. Can Spirit be killed?

bito
28th August 2008, 01:25 AM
schrodinger, you are using your conditioned mind to interpret my words.

bito
28th August 2008, 01:27 AM
..., Neither God nor His Expression is correct, for there are no opposites in God.

...
28th August 2008, 03:26 AM
..., Neither God nor His Expression is correct, for there are no opposites in God.

..instead God is misinterpreting? Who's doing that?

jufa
28th August 2008, 07:26 AM
If a child should ask me, "who am I?", I would say "you are God expressing Himself as you!"

I would say you are the living expression of the life you are.

I would also say "no matter what the world says you are, no matter what name they try to give to you, remember always that you are God being you!"

I would say you are the consciousness of that life you are, yet, it is that life which is the source of your consciousness.


I would counsel that most of the world is not awakened yet as to their true identity, so that when meeting another God expression that believes that they are something other than the single "I" of God, be patient and kind, for your purpose for being here is to remind them of the truth of who they are, and if there is not love present in the reminding, they are likely not to hear the spirit of your words.

I would not counsel any one as to their awakening, for I, nor anyone knows the odyssey of anothers journey, nor the lesson one is to learn, nor the time frame of their learning. What I would say is "there is a time for every purpose under the sun," and it is your destiny to find your purpose without hindering yourself, nor others along your path.

I would also say "if you have any questions about the living of you, go not to man for the answer, rather, go within you, where God's voice is, and ask God for the answer to your question about you, for only God knows how to live God."

I would say every question which derive from you ride upon the answer. If this was not true, the question could never exist within you because you are life, and life is the answer to any question posed within it. So this is also your destiny. To find out for yourself the cure for the illness of the question. "Physician heal thyself."

bito
28th August 2008, 04:12 PM
..instead God is misinterpreting? Who's doing that?

As Spirit we place conditions upon our awareness, as Spirit, we must transcend the conditions.

bito
28th August 2008, 04:22 PM
I would not counsel any one as to their awakening, for I, nor anyone knows the odyssey of anothers journey, nor the lesson one is to learn, nor the time frame of their learning. What I would say is "there is a time for every purpose under the sun," and it is your destiny to find your purpose without hindering yourself, nor others along your path.

Well said.

Smurf
28th August 2008, 04:34 PM
The thoughts of a homicidal maniac would be those of good and evil, relative thoughts that appear to be moving within his mind. A mind that believes that he is being pulled one way or another between this and that, cannot hear the silent Voice of God. If he hears the command to "kill", that is the voice of his humanism speaking, his ego, the voice that declares that there is a separation between God and His Son.

God cannot kill, for God is Spirit, which means you, as His Expression, is Spirit. Can Spirit be killed?

Yes but I can think of many people who would/have killed in the name of God.

Plus, what is Good and Evil is still defined by the "voice in the head". Thus being the problem with a subjective view of theology.

...
28th August 2008, 04:38 PM
As Spirit we place conditions upon our awareness, as Spirit, we must transcend the conditions.

..why? The conditions are Spirit aswell, so what's the point. This is why few children will even ask, "Who am I?"...

j000han
28th August 2008, 11:40 PM
..instead God is misinterpreting? Who's doing that?

Yes!
and how come GOD is being misninterpreted?
Also
Would a 'class one civilization' make that mistake?:huh:

bito
29th August 2008, 01:41 AM
If we understand our human conditioning to be the yoke that imprisons our minds, then it is our responsibility not to condition our children, not to pass on our our beliefs and our opinions - not to put our yoke around their neck.

People talk about attaining freedom from the burden of the self, but don't really want to do the inner work so as to be free from this burden. Not only for themselves, but for subsequent generations.

...
29th August 2008, 02:11 AM
If we understand our human conditioning to be the yoke that imprisons our minds, then it is our responsibility not to condition our children, not to pass on our our beliefs and our opinions - not to put our yoke around their neck.

People talk about attaining freedom from the burden of the self, but don't really want to do the inner work so as to be free from this burden. Not only for themselves, but for subsequent generations.

..no bito, you are passing on the yoke by inventing, or perpetuating, this gameplan where you ultimately free yourself from an imagined burden. If all is God, why would you want to free one aspect of God from another?

...
29th August 2008, 02:14 AM
Yes!
and how come GOD is being misninterpreted?
Also
Would a 'class one civilization' make that mistake?:huh:

..howcome? Because we've made God into our own image, and thereby put upon that image all that man desires. What i've learned over the years is that no man ever learns if the desire for the opposite is too great. Despite the/any civilization...

loveGOD
29th August 2008, 09:08 AM
If we understand our human conditioning to be the yoke that imprisons our minds, then it is our responsibility not to condition our children, not to pass on our our beliefs and our opinions - not to put our yoke around their neck.

People talk about attaining freedom from the burden of the self, but don't really want to do the inner work so as to be free from this burden. Not only for themselves, but for subsequent generations.

Thinking Thanks bito..., I rememeber it's beyond belief and imagination.
:loveyou: ...withing...GOD

j000han
29th August 2008, 10:43 AM
..howcome? Because we've made God into our own image, and thereby put upon that image all that man desires. What i've learned over the years is that no man ever learns if the desire for the opposite is too great. Despite the/any civilization...
Ok then lets forget about GOD for a moment.
What are you what am i?
Essentially a process of acreting and excreting matter?
In that there is no diffrence between a fly, a bird, a crocodile, a whale, a monkey aso.
Iow. human beings(like me and you) are also that process:
You breath in matter(acretion) you breath out matter(excretion).
You eat matter, you drink matter(acretion)
you shit matter, you piss/sweat matter(excretion).
You also might say that any organism (like a fly, a bird, a crocodile, a whale, a monkey, a human being is process of transformation of matter.
That’s what I would tell a child that would ask me ‘what am I?’.
If it would ask me 'who am i?' I’d take it to a mirror.:lol:

wayland
29th August 2008, 12:22 PM
If a child should ask me, "who am I?", I would say "you are God expressing Himself as you!"

I would also say "no matter what the world says you are, no matter what name they try to give to you, remember always that you are God being you!" I would counsel that most of the world is not awakened yet as to their true identity, so that when meeting another God expression that believes that they are something other than the single "I" of God, be patient and kind, for your purpose for being here is to remind them of the truth of who they are, and if there is not love present in the reminding, they are likely not to hear the spirit of your words.

I would also say "if you have any questions about the living of you, go not to man for the answer, rather, go within you, where God's voice is, and ask God for the answer to your question about you, for only God knows how to live God."

I would say to a child, "That's a tough one. I would need some time to get to know you and study you before I could answer a question like that.".


Originally Posted by j000han
u also might say that any organism (like a fly, a bird, a crocodile, a whale, a monkey, a human being is process of transformation of matter.
That’s what I would tell a child that would ask me ‘what am I?’.
If it would ask me 'who am i?' I’d take it to a mirror.

My ideas are in line with jooohan's a little, although taking a child to a mirror may be suggesting all is vanity at too early of an age. Also, what age of child are we talking about? I was twelve when my father asked me how I knew I existed. I've just now discovered how important that moment in my life was. In my particular case hindering one's path can be the same as one finding a path.

schrodinger
29th August 2008, 12:42 PM
If we understand our human conditioning to be the yoke that imprisons our minds, then it is our responsibility not to condition our children, not to pass on our our beliefs and our opinions - not to put our yoke around their neck.—Bito

In that case, the child, being unconditioned, would already know the answer to “Who am I” and not bother to ask the “conditioned” adult anything. But it is obvious to any one with any sense at all that is not how the human mind works. The child cannot even survive on its own without being taught and nurtured. Sure, included in the culture , science and civilization and history we pass on is a lot of outdated junk but that cannot be eliminated very easily. It takes many generations of sifting through it and filtering out what is still useful and what is not. The first things I would filter out are all of the Abrahamic religions, just for a start. Incidently, using large colorful fonts does not add anything to the message.:rolleyes: