A Great Truth..

[Noway2Zero]

:)

[bito]

:)

[Gelatinous Pope]

:)

This is both great and true. Nothing could be simpler.

[scameter]

Except: :lol:

[Michael]

:)

[sahyo]

:lol:

[Joncee]

As the Buddhist said to the hot dog vendor, "Make me one with everything."

Enlightenment is what is worth more than life.- Me

[Sersta]

...."well if you get nothing thats what I want."

" A true Zen saying; Nothing is what I want." Napoleon Murphy Brock & Frank Zappa: Roxy and Elsewhere

[Gelatinous Pope]

wherever you are

there you be

[Noway2Zero]

dont take things seriously and you'll always be at ease

[scameter]

Anything?

[Taeguk]

No thing seriously. ;)

[Noway2Zero]

;)

[Eidelweis]

Hello Taeguk

No thing seriously.

Everything is thing, even things not considered to be things

[scameter]

So... should I take what you said seriously?

[Taeguk]

Hi, Eidelweis!

You wrote:

Everything is thing, even things not considered to be things

Yes :); "everything" is indeed a thing. To be a thing is to be limited.

The unlimited, however, is not a thing. Thus it is emptiness. "Nothing" (no thing).

Take nothing seriously! :lol:

scameter, you wrote:

So... should I take what you said seriously?

No. :)

[scameter]

:alcoholic:

[Taeguk]

Hitting the bottle awfully young there, aren't we, scameter? :lol: ;)

[Ryker]

The greatest (and most simplistic) phrase that means the most to me:

"Expand, Radiate, & Dissolve" :)

[Noway2Zero]

"Expand, Radiate, & Dissolve" :) - "Expand, Radiate, & Dissolve" = :)

[Eidelweis]

Hi Taeguk

Yes ; "everything" is indeed a thing. To be a thing is to be limited.

The unlimited, however, is not a thing. Thus it is emptiness. "Nothing" (no thing).

Take nothing seriously!


If 'nothing' is 'taken seriously' by me remaining me, it becomes a thing.

If 'nothing' is really taken seriously, even I am 'nothing', there is nothing besides 'nothing'. Then who is there to take 'nothing' seriously?

[sahyo]

mathematical equation cannot

[Eidelweis]

isn't a mathematical equation

[sahyo]

hehehe

[Noway2Zero]

Then who is there to take 'nothing' seriously?

this is the part where 'suddenly the monk obtained enlightenment'
:lol:

[sahyo]

hehehe

[Taeguk]

Hi! :)

Eidelweis, you wrote:

If 'nothing' is really taken seriously, even I am 'nothing', there is nothing besides 'nothing'. Then who is there to take 'nothing' seriously?

Well....exactly.... ;)

Noway2Zero, you wrote:

this is the part where 'suddenly the monk obtained enlightenment'

And sahyo, you wrote:

hehehe

:lol:

Thanking all three of you :)

[Starry_Canopy]

If I may add...

[/QUOTE]Noway2Zero, you wrote:

this is the part where 'suddenly the monk obtained enlightenment'
[QUOTE]

This is the part where they say a Guru's role comes in.

It seems that when there is nothing but nothing, which is the only way it can be, the Guru steps in to show that that nothingness is in fact everything, is the guru, is the seeker. It seems without this input at that point, there is a chance of 'something' creeping in again and re-starting a whole new chain of karma. The guru might be someone we had earlier chosen consciously, before we became nothing, or could be any 'agent' assigned for the enlightenment by the everything that has become totally free as nothing.

[Taeguk]

Hi!

Starry Canopy, you wrote:

It seems that when there is nothing but nothing, which is the only way it can be, the Guru steps in to show that that nothingness is in fact everything, is the guru, is the seeker. It seems without this input at that point, there is a chance of 'something' creeping in again and re-starting a whole new chain of karma. The guru might be someone we had earlier chosen consciously, before we became nothing, or could be any 'agent' assigned for the enlightenment by the everything that has become totally free as nothing.

Thanks for adding that, Starry! :)

I think it's very important to realize that it can be very easy for "something" to sneak back in---all too easy, even for those who have had insight into the "nothing".

I believe this is the point in the Zen tradition when the infamous "kill the Buddha" applies.

[Starry_Canopy]

Yes, psyche,

Nothingness cannot even be emptiness. It can only be in-finite....?

[scameter]

I think so psyche. Both are concepts of negation; nothingness being the negation of existence, and emptiness being the negation of fullness. It is simply that both are different types of negation, but both are spiritual.

[sahyo]

Joshu was asked,
"When a man comes to you with nothing,
what would you say to him ?"

Joshu replied,
"Throw it away!"

[bito]

:gone:

[sahyo]

hehehe