Advice From My Heart

[Gelatinous Pope]

Be happy like the mountain who does not move and remains higher than its surroundings.

[Zoid]

:)

[scameter]

Happiness comes through defeating one's environment?

[Zoid]

The mountain is one with its environment! B)

[scameter]

And yet they said higher than....

[Zoid]

Is the moon higher than the Earth?

[Winfried]

I don't know if you're right. I don't know if you're wrong either, but let's have a little personal account in the battle, shall we?

Lately, I've been experiencing some severe spiritual growth. Not just a slight step, it's more of a giant leap. Some part is thanks to you guys, the rest is because of my supportive parents and the amount of books I have handy.
The thing is, I'm starting to feel uncomfortable with my friends, who haven't had the same growth I had. I'm not saying they should start reading like maniacs, but my personal point of interest has shifted quite a lot. Those fierce discussions about music (mainly trashmetal) I previously so enjoyed, don't really move me anymore. Something just doesn't feel right. When I say 'Friedrich Nietsche', they stare blankly at me and then say 'Kerry King'. I'm not able to chat with them anymore, and I feel bad about it. I lost the ability of small talk, thanks to this so-called growth. Am I a mountain, are they the surroundings, but is unity lost? Am I a vulcano that has just erupted, and is the surrounding mad at me for that? Am I mad at the surrouding for not erupting with me?

All I can come up with now are three little words: Ignorance is Bliss...

Edit: On a side note, if you don't understand what the hell I'm trying to say, it's OK. I'm not really trying to say something, I just feel kinda awkward lately.

[Gelatinous Pope]

Be happy like the tree who only grows upward.

[Noway2Zero]

been through it :) still going through it..

i can hardly talk to people about much(sometimes i do just to be polite) so i stay quiet

ive left all my previous ways of life

keep going.. after the darkness there is a light and all things melt away

Ignorance is Bliss...

indeed it is! forget your memory its not you as important as you may think ,without what you know now you still exist :)

[scameter]

All I can come up with now are three little words: Ignorance is Bliss...

Yes, I've experienced the exact thing before, and it has made me who I am now. Although I never really was one for small talk or even talk other than the type I give now; it seems I was predisposed from birth to be like I am, it simply took the predisposition to be fulfilled by experience. But, most people are not on this level; I usually refer to it in terms of awareness and unawareness, most people being the latter. But, ignorant is also a good term for those unaware; most people would think it is derogatory, but on the contrary, it is bliss. Here: the mountain is higher than it's surroundings, but is slowly broken down by the eroding winds.

[sahyo]

i can hardly talk to people about much(sometimes i do just to be polite) so i stay quiet

ive left all my previous ways of life

keep going.. after the darkness there is a light and all things melt away



thanks sharing!

[Noway2Zero]

sharing!

that is the whole idea isnt it ;)

[Taeguk]

Hi!

Winfried, you wrote:

Lately, I've been experiencing some severe spiritual growth. Not just a slight step, it's more of a giant leap. Some part is thanks to you guys, the rest is because of my supportive parents and the amount of books I have handy. The thing is, I'm starting to feel uncomfortable with my friends, who haven't had the same growth I had. I'm not saying they should start reading like maniacs, but my personal point of interest has shifted quite a lot. Those fierce discussions about music (mainly trashmetal) I previously so enjoyed, don't really move me anymore. Something just doesn't feel right. When I say 'Friedrich Nietsche', they stare blankly at me and then say 'Kerry King'. I'm not able to chat with them anymore, and I feel bad about it. I lost the ability of small talk, thanks to this so-called growth. Am I a mountain, are they the surroundings, but is unity lost? Am I a vulcano that has just erupted, and is the surrounding mad at me for that? Am I mad at the surrouding for not erupting with me?

First of all, thanks for sharing! It takes a lot to be able to display your personal problems like that, in front of a bunch of strangers (even if it is on the internet)!

Second of all, you have my deepest sympathy for what you are going through! One of the more difficult times of my life was looking around and realizing all of my "friends" and I had somehow become so different that we had virtually nothing in common any longer. It's bewildering, disenchanting, and it happens so quickly and quietly that you normally don't even realize a rift has formed until that rift has become a chasm. :(

For what it's worth, though...

You're not alone! I think everyone goes through this, especially at your age (if you don't mind my saying so :) ). People are asking themselves "who I am?" and discovering who they are, experimenting with who they are...in fact, I'd say what you're experiencing now is something all of humanity has to go through, at one time or another, to varying degrees or another.

You're not alone! Even though you may be more overtly philosophical/spiritual than your friends, you aren't the only one that's like that. You've got all of us crazy people here at thebigview, too :D who are just like you! Not to mention all those crazy people throughout history who also found themselves somewhat isolated from prevailing views! Winfried, you are in the company of people like Socrates, Lao Tzu, Jesus, Mansur Hallaj, Galileo, and pretty much every famous thinker, poet, artist, philosopher, and spiritual person who ever lived! And some of them even left writings behind, so you can enjoy daily conversations with them!

You're not alone! In fact, you are one with the entire cosmos! You are an aspect of "the whole, which is called by us, 'universe' "---as somebody (Einstein? :think:) once said! Don't ever forget that, Winfried. Especially don't ever forget this! Unity isn't something you can possibly lose.

As crazy and mystifying and terrifying and incomprehensible as life can be sometimes, it's all part of the process. It's all the flow of the Tao. You're part of the process, too, Winfried. Just...take a deep breath, and remember this and you'll be fine. B)

[sahyo]

n2z

idea? ;)

[Noway2Zero]

you get my meaning :P

[sahyo]

hehehe

maybe not?

[Noway2Zero]

maybe not?

then you do! :lol:

[sahyo]

:lol:

[Winfried]

Winfried, you are in the company of people like Socrates, Lao Tzu, Jesus, Mansur Hallaj, Galileo, and pretty much every famous thinker, poet, artist, philosopher, and spiritual person who ever lived! And some of them even left writings behind, so you can enjoy daily conversations with them!
You know, I'd like to give up this flattering position just to be able to communicate with the others again. (Even though I just read catcher in the rye which is basically about the very same thing, just that I don't get depressed by every single thing I see :P ) I'm starting to feel isolated. Besides you guys, whom I don't really know, there is exactly one person I can really still talk to. We laugh, we cry, we do stuff together. She's been a real friend for...ages, but one isn't much, is it? And I really don't want to end up just like all the 'crazy' people who have become famous, but died poor, mentally ill and alone (or addicted to drugs).

You're a real support, but I'm starting to feel like a whiney bastard by now. :rolleyes:

[Taeguk]

Hi Winfried! :)

You wrote:

You're a real support, but I'm starting to feel like a whiney bastard by now.

:lol: Oh, not at all!

You say you only have friend? Treasure her, Winfried (as I'm sure you already do! :) ), because you already have more true friends than most people these days. Certainly many people have others to hang out with; but when the chips are down, how many of these buddies of theirs can they really count on?

I don't know about the Netherlands, but over here in the 'States, many people can't even count themselves lucky to have a single person they can really talk to! I'm not just making this up, there's been a recent psychological study confirming this (link, anyone? If I can find it I'll post it).

[Noway2Zero]

a wise man once told me..

your lucky if you can count your friends on the fingers of one hand

so far i have 0 people i can 'really' talk to.. oddly enough i might be less lonely than most though..

alone but not lonely.. (forget where i read that)

when im alone my company is the best.. :)

[sahyo]

so far i have 0 people i can 'really' talk to..

what your meaning 'really' talk to , n2z ?

[Gelatinous Pope]

Do not give worry to tittling another your best friend. Only realize it is best to have friends.

If you have no expectation, then everything becomes a bonus.

If you never consider hate, you will have unconditional love.

[Noway2Zero]

good question.. i dont think i have an answer to that .. :think:

best 'really' talking is done when im silent so that was a pointless statement on my part <_<

kinda like all the statements ever made .. pointless! :lol:

[Noway2Zero]

quite right pope

[sahyo]

good question.. i dont think i have an answer to that .. :think:

best 'really' talking is done when im silent so that was a pointless statement on my part <_<

kinda like all the statements ever made .. pointless! :lol:



:D