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sunny
4th May 2006, 08:19 AM
I would like to check one thing is that..Conventional religious belief is that body carries a soul..where soul is real source of energy which can never be destroyed..So as science is advancing so much to a state tht we are able to do cloning and started making photo copies of bodies..where do soul comes from into it???
I would like to add one more dimension to this topic as do u relate the terms soul n ghost??? :huh:
scameter
4th May 2006, 10:23 AM
Science has no ability to disprove the existence of the soul within the body. Whether the soul is within the body, outside of it but is the body's, is apart of another out-of-body spiritual entity such as a god and simply using the body, etc., is neither provable nor disprovable by science. Cloning is still quite a ways off. They've cloned other animals, and even a human embryo, but that is a very long ways off from directly cloning an entire human, especially an adult, with entire completeness and accuracy. I'm not sure if eventually they will be able to or not, but that still wouldn't disprove the soul, nor people's desire or lack of desire for cloning to take place.
freefire
4th May 2006, 03:17 PM
I would like to add one more dimension to this topic as do u relate the terms soul n ghost???
Ghost is nothing but "Bhoot" as they call it in hindi."Bhoot" is a sanskrit word that means "the past".Ghosts are the memories of the people who once lived,& when these Ghosts of someones memories gets hightened by a persons imagination that is when a ghost is actually sighted.
If there is a ghost in this world it is probably the memories because that is what remains of a person after he dies & that is what haunts people after his death.
Kether
5th May 2006, 12:35 AM
I don't think that there is such a thing as 'conventional religious belief', since religions generally disagree. Buddhism does not believe in a soul; it holds that the soul is an illusion created by the five 'Skandhas' of thought and sensation.
Science has no ability to disprove the existence of the soul within the body. Whether the soul is within the body, outside of it but is the body's, is apart of another out-of-body spiritual entity such as a god and simply using the body, etc., is neither provable nor disprovable by science.
The evidence against the existence of a permanent soul is not very strongly conclusive, but that does not mean that science does not have the potential to find more evidence to support either view; indeed, it probably will do so, to the point where one will be able to draw a definite conclusion on the matter based on strong evidence.
To me, the existence of a soul separate from the body seems exceedingly improbable. Think of a drop of water; does it have a permanent soul, an eternal wetness, that survives its splitting into hydrogen and oxygen by electrosis? It seems unlikely to me.
sunny
5th May 2006, 05:23 AM
When Bhoot are just memories of a dead person..Why do u hear lot of stories about souls n ghosts moving around and some times trouble causing to human kind..I cant prove tht every dead man becomes a ghost coz by now world might have filled with them..But there are certianly some evidences like ..Night vision camera in a car parking lot in US caught a small moving oblect jumping over a car n destroying it..I saw tht video tape with my own eyes..Till then even i dnt believed in them..
There lots of evidences of them like some castles in UK will give scary sounds at night where science is unable to prove why they come
locomotive
5th May 2006, 05:37 AM
where did the idea of a soul come from in religion? :
soul (http://www.british-israel.ca/immortalsoul.htm)
scameter
5th May 2006, 12:31 PM
that does not mean that science does not have the potential to find more evidence to support either view; indeed, it probably will do so, to the point where one will be able to draw a definite conclusion on the matter based on strong evidence.
Evidence of something not able to be evidenced. Science looks at reality, and describes it. If it doesn't find something, that doesn't prove it's nonexistance.
Think of a drop of water; does it have a permanent soul, an eternal wetness, that survives its splitting into hydrogen and oxygen by electrosis? It seems unlikely to me.
That is why such things need to be thought about. Perhaps the individual droplet of water doesn't, but think about it this way, as an example: the water droplet is apart of nature, and if nature is indeed good, and god is an incorporeal spirit and consists of everything in existence as it is the Way of life and is everything, then nature is and has a soul, thus so does the water. And, the droplet doesn't die when it splits into smaller droplets; it simply reenters nature, and even then, it could be said to die from one point of view and return to the nature spirit, from another to not die but simply transform, or to essentially experience rebirth into a new droplet. If one limits spirituality, theology, theosophy, and similar things, of course it will seem "improbable".
where did the idea of a soul come from in religion? :
Good question. Probably from the very first religious theories that we are similar to a higher being, or beings, called god/gods, and thus have an extra-physical link to them. And, I think feelings and intuition and even astrological and divination knowledge were attributed to spirituality.
Kether
6th May 2006, 06:24 PM
where did the idea of a soul come from in religion?
People have usually had a fear of nature and death. The belief in immortality assuages this fear. In addition, our minds subjectively feel separate from our bodies; it probably took little time to weave together these emotions and observations into a belief in a soul, something that has been challenged by few Western thinkers until the past few centuries.
locomotive
7th May 2006, 09:16 AM
ah the idea of a self.
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