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Smurf
10th April 2006, 10:16 AM
Ok was wondering as I was walking through the city, well I live in the country and love its tranquility, but I don't mind the city either; sort of some sort of affection for the humanity's edifice, some relation to the man-made towers and buildings, roads that surround me... what you think? you a city person, or a country person?

scameter
10th April 2006, 11:25 AM
I am overwhelmingly a country person. Going into the polluted cities filled with entirely inhuman, dispassionate and uncaring automatons simply living out meager, unfulfilling live to carry out meaningless logistics for a country that cares nothing for anyone but gaining more and more money, with the towering, nature-destroying structures of mined metal polluting the once-beautiful landscape simply to pose as an institution for the furtherment of human money-gain; I despise it. The very air is a poison. The country is like heaven compared to cities, and an entirely natural area is even beyond that.

TruthSeeker
10th April 2006, 11:31 AM
I love the cities. Specially the modern ones because they have quite fascinating architectures. There is a lot to do in the cities too. Sometimes I found the country way too slow. But again... I was raised in a city with more then 16 million people... :lol:

The main reason why I prefer the cities is because I find people fascinating. The city also helps me discover human nature, it sheds light into what it is to be human and our limitations. There's also much to discover in cities. There's an unlimited wealth of knowledge and a variety of perspectives.

I also love the country. But I'm on my city phase right now... :D

I'm just fascinated by the mess we created...:rofl:

scameter
10th April 2006, 11:36 AM
Honestly, I don't find human nature, that expressed in cities at least, to be fascinating at all. And the architecture, modernly, seems very blocky and bland, only there for what it is used for, not for an actual expression of beauty or passion, which suits the modern society. I love freedom, and because the country is somewhat cultivated but also alot closer to being entirely natural than the city, I am able to be close to nature but also have the luxury of knowing a secure humanized spot awaits me if I so desire it, and vise versa for the natural aspect. :) I was raised in the country, but the few times I have been to the rather large city of Atlanta I have despised it, even going just into the fringes. It is however the only city besides Orlando I've ever been to, so I may very well like other countries' cities, especially London or Edinborough (possible mispell there), which is a curiosity I hope to rectify later. :)

TruthSeeker
10th April 2006, 11:41 AM
You should visit Vancouver. It's a very modern city. The architecture is amazing and the people are interesting....

Well, but of course...!
You should also visit Bonito in Brazil! It's one of the most beautiful places in the world. It's in the middle of a jungle. :)

I should add that altough I love cities I love going to the middle of a forest, sitting down with my eyes closed and meditate, listening to the birds... ;)

scameter
10th April 2006, 11:43 AM
If it's a very modern city, I wouldn't like it. :D And the Brazil city sounds nice, except that the forest is outside of the city, and the city required that the forest once there be reduced to the new home of metal and gears and the mediocre lives of normal humans. :P I do love culture though, especially that of Britain, which is why the English and Scottish capitols sounds so good to me, and Amsterdam would be extremely interesting, and perhaps even Dublin, Berlin, Oslo, Moscow...:P If you couldn't tell, I love northern European culture. :P

TruthSeeker
10th April 2006, 11:45 AM
Are you following me... :uhoh:

scameter
10th April 2006, 11:46 AM
:D Are YOU following ME?

TruthSeeker
10th April 2006, 11:46 AM
If you couldn't tell, I love northern European culture.
I love that too... :P

TruthSeeker
10th April 2006, 11:47 AM
You are crazy! Go away! :lol:

scameter
10th April 2006, 11:59 AM
:) I'm glad you do. Unfortunately, not many people do anymore.

:o :lol:

Hey, as a note, if you'd like, I'm open for MSN. B)

TruthSeeker
10th April 2006, 12:01 PM
Of course you are! LOL! :rofl: :goodlaugh:

scameter
10th April 2006, 12:02 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Smurf
10th April 2006, 05:40 PM
I'm glad you do. Unfortunately, not many people do anymore.


hey I love it too!

I love Prague! awesome city, oh and Gent

TruthSeeker
10th April 2006, 09:59 PM
I have a friend that loves Switzerland and goes there every year to hike and watch the cows. :lol:

lenin32
11th April 2006, 12:50 AM
I am personally a country person. The cold, bloodless atmosphere of the city sends shivers down my spine. Cities, to me, mean human domination of nature. I dont think it can be argued that a city is human kinds ultimate expression of "superiority" over nature. There is almost always some crappy little park to show that "we love nature."

Its almost sick. All of those towers and buildings, and there are like 3 trees that stand nobly beside them. It makes me sad to think about all of it.

Kether
11th April 2006, 03:31 AM
I have always appreciated the country, but I also love the vibrancy of the city; so I am very lucky that I live in between them. Of course, the suburbs are irrevocably dull, and my heart lies to either side of them.
Perhaps I have only ever seen the pleasant side of city life; I have not lived in one for eleven years, and have only really seen city centres. I was born in London, and have a favourable view of it because the few memories I have are pleasant; I later lived near Cambridge, a very beautiful and peaceful city - now I live to the South of vibrant Manchester. I have experienced country and city life in equal measure, and love both of them in different ways - I suppose I like a balance.

Smurf
11th April 2006, 05:37 AM
and there are like 3 trees that stand nobly beside them.

purely for aesthetics, no respect involved

scameter
11th April 2006, 10:06 AM
I agree entirely entirely lenin, that is my feelings about the city exactly. :)

Thomas Knierim
11th April 2006, 10:21 AM
I recently moved from the concrete jungle of Bangkok (> 10 million people) to the green suburbs of Chiang Mai (400,000 people). It was quite a relief.

Cheers, Thomas

scameter
11th April 2006, 11:32 AM
I understand entirely. :)

Smurf
12th April 2006, 06:28 PM
woah Thomas that's heaps of people... that to think down in my little town of around 250, just thinking of those numbers is hard to comprehend :P

scameter
13th April 2006, 09:21 AM
I wonder how many Atlanta has. <_<

sonrisa
14th April 2006, 07:21 PM
I'm a city girl, born & raised. I'd go crazy nutz out in the stix.... :blink:

According to the last census Scam, Atlanta has/had 4,247,981 people

scameter
15th April 2006, 05:21 AM
:o Wow. And it's not even a capital or anything. I wonder how many New York City has?

MidnightSun
15th April 2006, 03:16 PM
Well i live in a city and i get used to it and it would be hard for me to live on in some village and a villager couldnbt live in a city too.

We're mammals, they tend to get along with their suroundings.

Smurf
15th April 2006, 04:59 PM
interesting, more city people...

I agree with you Midnight, we tend to carve things that we inderstand, we love the city because it is easy to understand... nature baffles the modern human :D

Kether
15th April 2006, 11:23 PM
There are probably more city people here because city people are more likely to be interested in philosophy. I don't wish to sound elitist, but philosophy generally favours a cosmopolitan environment. In a city there are many people who share the same interests; there are universities; there are large libraries.

TruthSeeker
16th April 2006, 12:13 AM
There are probably more city people here because city people are much more likely to have internet. Think about it. How many cables we have in the country? Do we even have cable tv on the country?

And of course, if you live in the city, then, you are obviously more inclined to live in cities. You would probably not be living in one if you didn't liked it in the first place...

So the skewed results are just a consequence of a not-so-random sample... ;)

scameter
16th April 2006, 02:08 PM
Wow, cities must be quite wonderful then, filled with children; quite a paradise of thought and humanity and passion and a simple zest for life.

sonrisa
16th April 2006, 02:17 PM
Scam- Atlanta is the capital of GA. What are they teaching you in school? Hell, you can see the capitol building from 75. Or have you never been to Atlanta? Not even on a field trip- to see the capitol building?

scameter
16th April 2006, 02:58 PM
Oh, oh yes, I see what you're saying! Yes, I have been to Atlanta a little bit a couple times over the course of my life, and in my doing so I have been able to count every single person who lives in Atlanta, so really, my question was irrelevent.

sonrisa
16th April 2006, 11:27 PM
oh really? well then you should of known Atlanta has 4,247,000 odd people in it, right? Btw, did you say hi to my bud Tommy for me while you were counting everybody there? :D

Kether
16th April 2006, 11:45 PM
You're absolutely right, Truthseeker. I wonder what the proportion of city-dwellers to country-dwellers is in the world in general? There are probably more country-dwellers, particularly in poorer countries - but some of them may want to live in cities. Cities are probably dismal for many people, but living in poverty in rural areas probably seems worse if it's the reality for you; particularly if you've seen the apparently high employment in urban areas. It's a hard question.

I went to Rome last week - of all the cities I've been to, it's my favourite one. It's so full of life and vibrancy, and the centre (the only part I saw) is packed to the gills with mind-blowing beauty. I doubt that I was ever more than 100 metres from a stunning work of art.
Wow, cities must be quite wonderful then, filled with children; quite a paradise of thought and humanity and passion and a simple zest for life.
Filled with children? No more so than anywhere else. A paradise? Nowhere, including - and maybe particularly - the city, is perfect. Nowhere is a paradise. But cities are full of humanity, by definition; they are the most human places on earth. They are full of the struggles and miseries and joys of the human condition, full of diversity, beauty, hideousness, love, despair.

TruthSeeker
17th April 2006, 03:40 AM
I went to Rome last week - of all the cities I've been to, it's my favourite one. It's so full of life and vibrancy, and the centre (the only part I saw) is packed to the gills with mind-blowing beauty. I doubt that I was ever more than 100 metres from a stunning work of art.
Yes, I miss Rome...
The pines of Rome...
So poetic... :lol:

There was a park in Rome that I really liked... I forgot the name now... <_<

scameter
17th April 2006, 06:29 AM
:D

Then they aren't filled with children, or philosophers.

CSwriter1
30th April 2006, 10:03 PM
I have this wonderful little machine that makes soothing natural sounds, like a river flowing over rocks, birds, ocean, rain.

There are also some awesome murals. You can get them on the Internet, and cover a wall with a forest or African animals, or beach. etc. . I really want a forest with a river mural for my bedroom wall. This is where my computer is and where I spend the most time while at home.

I am totally lucky in that I live in a city apartment with a view of trees, and a water way, and my apartment is blocked from street sounds, so it pretty much like living in the country. But I live in a small city. It is large enough to have most of the things that make cities nice places, but not so large it is unpleasant. I come from LA, California, and know really large cities.

I am very thankful I raised my children in the coutry, outside of the small city where we live now, instead of the inner city slums of LA. I would rather be poor in the country than poor in the city. This is absolutely for sure, especially when raising children!

I love visiting San Francisco but wouldn't want to leave there. I also like Seattle, Washington, but don't like Portland, Oregon.

For a while I ran a small motel with cabins, far out a mountian road, by a river, and I would really like to be there, but my family is in town, and I like being an on call grandma. That is why I really want the mural for my wall. But I miss taking care of people needing a room for the night, and the yard work I did by the river. Darn, the more I think of it, the more I want to get back to the motel. Must focus on the good I have now.

Thomas Knierim
17th May 2006, 11:46 PM
Ideally it would be the country in the city.

I know this isn't easy to accomplish, but with sensible environmental laws, good city planning, and generous $$$ devoted to architecture and landscaping, it should be possible.

I have lived in Bangkok for more than 10 years. Bangkok is a 8 million+ concrete jungle with lots of uncontrolled growth, no zoning, no planning, heavy pollution and congestion. In other words, it's pretty chaotic, though there may be worse places. On the other hand, Bangkok is vibrant, dynamic, exciting, generally safe, and very convenient.

Now I live in a suburb of Chiang Mai in Northern Thailand. It's quite different, because it's small , green, quiet, clean and less chaotic (as far as Asian cities go...). It probably comes closer to country lifestyle. I definitely prefer it.

In Germany I lived in four different cities. Of the cities I have visited I like Düsseldorf, Seattle, Vancouver, Barcelona, Amsterdam and Singapore. Among the cities which I haven't visited, I like Miami, Boston, Shanghai, Auckland, and Florence.

There are probably many other great places to live on this planet of which none of us has ever heard.

Cheers, Thomas

TruthSeeker
18th May 2006, 02:58 AM
Ideally it would be the country in the city.

I know this isn't easy to accomplish, but with sensible environmental laws, good city planning, and generous $$$ devoted to architecture and landscaping, it should be possible.
I've always dreamed of that... :)

Unfortunately, it takes a long time for majestic old trees to grow... :reallysad:

buzzlightyear1982
14th June 2006, 08:51 PM
Who needs the real thing when they produce thousands of the plastic reproductions everyday? Myself...don't settle for substitutes...I prefer the real thing. I've always wanted to live on a farm, however, there is no money in it any more B)

Smurf
15th June 2006, 04:36 PM
hah so if everyone wants the same as you Buzzlightyear1982 then we will have no farms and no food :o

There may be not much money in a farm, but there is so much more that makes up for it that isn't of monetarial value

sonrisa
15th June 2006, 06:53 PM
yo Buzz, what's up with that farm in LA? The one Darryl Hannah & some other folx are trying to keep from getting bull-dozed. You know anything about that?

buzzlightyear1982
15th June 2006, 09:56 PM
I've haven't heard anything about that but I'll look into it...that sounds like something I could get into B)