Apollo 11

[scameter]

As for my personal opinion, I think that it did happen, that the conspiracy theorists that have pictures and so-called evidence for the mission being fake simply want attention and/or the ability to publish books about it that indeed the curious public will buy, and that also simply god actual pictures taken by NASA and used modern computer technology to influence them as to their desires, taking out stars that were originally there or adding things wherever they needed them added. I trust science beyond to say that we didn't go there; we went there, we landed on the moon, and we returned. Simply. As for the theory that America simply made a fake movie of it, for one, the government if such a movie had been made would've been too careful to remove stars (which if indeed the video had been filmed in the Nevada desert as some say, stars would've been present regardless), to put a flag in the ground knowing it would blow in the wind not present on the atmosphereless moon, and the various other propaganda inserted by the conspiracy theorists. But, I thought it would be interesting to receive your opinion(s) on this. :)

[MidnightSun]

No opinion on it.

[scameter]

I'm just glad someone finally posted, thanks. :)

[scameter]

lol Yes, I suppose 6 million "missing" Jews wasn't enough evidence for them.

[Smurf]

yeah it did happen, all of the "conspiracies" just happened to come out on the 1st of April... go figure... :P

[scameter]

:D

[MidnightSun]

I heard my friend saying that he had saw some photos of it and the angle of shadows was wrong, unphysicall and impossible.

Can u comment on that?

[Kether]

People always mention the fact that the American flag seems to be blowing in the wind - they've obviously never heard of wire.
some people want to believe the holocaust never happened in spite of witnesses...media and living survivors...
There has been huge controversy about the imprisonment of the neo-Nazi historian David Irving for denying the holocaust.

[scameter]

Can u comment on that?

For one, the photos he saw could've been modern and thus affected by computer alteration. For two, when taking pictures, especially on the moon, it is difficult to encompass both one large light and another in the same picture, which explains the often lack of apparent stars, and and thus in the pictures of it, shadows may have been affected by it for one being on the moon, for two being so close to the Earth in it's magnanimity, and the sun and stars in their light magnificiance.

[Smurf]

There has been huge controversy about the imprisonment of the neo-Nazi historian David Irving for denying the holocaust.

yeah, but he changed his argument that he knew there was one but not as many jews suffered as they said, silly git... :lol:

he said this year: "I said that then based on my knowledge at the time, but by 1991 when I came across the Eichmann papers, I wasn't saying that anymore and I wouldn't say that now,"
"The Nazis did murder millions of Jews."

[scameter]

So it took a paper, even after he was confronted with actual evidence on the subject, for him to realize the holocaust occured? How sad.

[Smurf]

So it took a paper, even after he was confronted with actual evidence on the subject, for him to realize the holocaust occured? How sad.

yeah very... human race ... meh

so you don't have a spaceship then?

[Kether]

I think that, even though I personally think that he is a disgusting man, Irving should be allowed to voice his opinions. Legally silencing one dissenter is going to set a precedent.

[Smurf]

Irving should be allowed to voice his opinions

yes he did in a book, and now that he made his choice to deny it in Austria, where they have a law to forbid the denial of the holocaust, he went to trial. It was his choice...

[scameter]

I agree Kether, as long as his views are not allowed to overtake actual evidence.

And lol unfortunately no I don't smurf. :D Do you? :P

[Smurf]

as long as his views are not allowed to overtake actual evidence.

that's what he was sort of doing...

no I don't Scam, damn....


hey 1000th post! http://www.balloonwarehouse.com/images/1Smileyhat.gif

[scameter]

Yes, unfortunately that is what he appears to have done, but I can't say that from any evidence other than the words of you and Kether. Opinion expression is perfectly fine, but not when one concretes that opinion into a view that is forced upon others. That disrupts harmony erroneously.

:D

Congratulations! :dancing:

[Smurf]

ahh sorry for disrupting the harmony Scam :uhoh:

ok looky looky :P

Wikipedia, David Irving (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Irving)

[scameter]

lol You didn't disrupt anything my friend, you never do. :)

[CSwriter1]

My father worked for NASA at the time and played an important role in developing Apollo. He sure had a nice house and a nice pay check for many years. That would be one hack of a cover up, to fake something that took several years.

[scameter]

My father worked for NASA at the time and played an important role in developing Apollo. He sure had a nice house and a nice pay check for many years. That would be one hack of a cover up, to fake something that took several years.

Indeed. And honestly, simply faking it wouldn't take that long.

on a light note...i happened to get from a surplus catalog the exact sunglasses made by nikon for the astronauts...when you see the pictures of them in the blue jumpsuits with aviatorish sunglasses...those are them...nikon stopped making sunglasses long ago...they are titanum frames with polaroid lenses...i had three pairs...i wore one out...gave one away and still have one but lost one of the lenses...they can be replaced but apparently not exactly...or a least not that i have found...

Hmm...how do they reflect shadows?

[scameter]

Oh. :P I suppose the visors would've effected much more resistence to the sun's light than would sunglasses, which rely on the atmosphere to assist them in their efforts.