Arrogance

[scameter]

I'm curious.

[Smurf]

I am not going to choose Scam, I think that you are Human and we all have a little bit of arrogance somewhere, also we all have a bit of humility in us too. No one is perfect, you must learn that Scam. I do not judge you Scam, I know you have been through hell and back, but you are still here. You are still my mate and mates don't judge each other. My spirit of Comradeship is great and you are great Scam, you have a great mind and much ahead of you... Don't let others make you, you. :thumbsup:

[scameter]

Psyche would seem to disagree. Still though, I would like yours and everyone else's entirely honest opinion of this issue of mine, if you don't mind. Do not feel ashamed; I won't take it out on any of you or anything of course. I'm simply curious. :)

[Smurf]

Ok I chose no for the above reasons :)

[scameter]

you forgot to mention that psyche states she is also arrogant and spoiled...and i am not voting...i am not against you scam as you seem to feel/think...and btw do you remember this post...addressed to me...from you..

I didn't forget that, I simply didn't say it here. And I also didn't say you're against me, I simply said you feel differently than smurf does.

what i would like for everyone to respond to is whether or not this statement is rude...i am also curious...

And then did you also read when I said repeatedly I was sorry, which was genuine, and that I don't even know you and can't judge anyways? I said SEEMS a LITTLE egotistical to me, which it did, but obviously I was wrong (perhaps).

This is absolutely hilarious. Please, continue this futile discussion as I sit back and enjoy the ranting.

That discussion, in the topic Thomas, did seem futile and simply an arrogant ranting by Owen, which, before you came here psyche, he had called me arrogant, spoiled and too young to understand anything. It was ranting, because to actually try to halt his arrogance is futile.

You know, I was mad before, and honestly, I will not lie, I still am, and could say some things. But frankly, I don't see any point in it. Fine, maybe I am arrogant and spoiled, but I know that I care and that I try my best to care as much as possible; but I will also not lie or be hypocritical. i will admit if I was wrong, as I obviously perhaps was about saying that you seem a little egotistical; but you do not know me, you have no idea what I've done or feel or have been through, and for you to claim that I'm spoiled is simply arrogant. Please, say something; but this is how I feel. You do not know me, you cannot know me, and have no right to say I do not know pain and/or have not felt it. Please, contradict me. It's fine, I'm used to it. But as I said this is how I feel. I hate feeling like this, but I did not choose to feel this way, just as I didn't choose to be spoiled if I even was spoiled in my CHILDHOOD.

[locomotive]

settle down now kids.

[scameter]

I'm glad you liked it psyche; at least I know you read it, or at least some of it. Unless you're lying, which is certainly possible. I do feel better now however. :)

Yes dad, I'm sorry, I forgot the very basic lesson most parents and society in general teaches their children and members: don't express emotion, and do not tell the truth. Sorry to break them. :D

[WilliamMckeehan]

Scameter to me i have never really seen arrogance its just you have many ideas and options but like you once told me dont like anyone just change your mind about anything and you dont do that u have a thought about somthing and you keep it in your head thats my option on you :lol:

but u can really make me think at times i really enjoy reading ur words of wisdom keep it up my friend :thumbsup:

[scameter]

:D Ah. Well, that's good I suppose. :P I'm glad to have you as a friend on here, as I always have been. :)

[Ronagon]

Scam:

Arrogance is a logic error. It is overestimating your abilities in some realm, and then attempting to operate on that overestimation. That's all it is.

"Arrogate" is a verb, in this respect. And being creatures of limited logical comprehension, I would very certainly say that we all arrogate at some point in our lives.

And so, yes... you are arrogant... at times. But that is not all you are. You are also very accurate much of the time.

Also, I am arrogant... at times. As I think we all are.

[scameter]

Hmm...I agree with your definition, except I think it isn't a logic error; it is simply an emotional aspect of humanity to be more than is necessary, and to think themselves worthy of superiority or more than is necessary. But, you think I'm accurate?

[scameter]

was that necessary...

Yes, because I didn't want to leave open the option that you could have been lying, which you certainly could've been. I didn't mean it personally.

We had two bags of grass, 75 pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half-full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multicolored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers...Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether, and two dozen amyls...But the only thing that worried me was the ether."
-From Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, by Hunter S. Thompson.

May I ask why you posted that?

[scameter]

Ah, you wished to include my signature, which by the way wasn't there when I posted that particular post.

[scameter]

:) That's because I have that signature now. If I was to change my signature, it would change for back then too.

[locomotive]

arrogant is indeed giving less than you should. You could say that it's not someone that is beeing arrogant but someone else that is expecting to much. You can talk things over, learning eachothers motives and then leave the cause of the problem in the open for both to see and move on or you can just move on.
One of you thinks that the other is not entirely truthfull and vica versa. From that comes the arrogance because you are both depriving eachother: the cause of the view you assumed (without a life story of how you are as a person to validate yourself) , your motives, ..
Even though you have said why you said what you said it is followed by what kind of person you are and that is exactly the problem. Somewhere the person that is not satisfied sees contradictions and beliefs the other is not giving him what he/she wants.
ow and even if there is only a slight motive of wanting to be right instead of simply evaluating the situation neutrally then you are arrogant.

[MidnightSun]

no one else has even suggested any of these attributes but you

:lol: that is right

paranoya? :think:

[Smurf]

yeah Scam? what has brought this on?
insecurity?

I think you are over-reacting again...

you really need to calm down, take a chill pill and...


do you really think that we think you are arrogant? cause I don't think so ... please put yourself in our shoes for this?

[scameter]

i think i deserve an explanation...

I have explained: I said I was sorry a million times, in every description of you I gave I said you SEEM to be a LITTLE bit that. Can I ask you something psyche? Is there anything I can say?

do you really think that we think you are arrogant? cause I don't think so ... please put yourself in our shoes for this?

Surely.

paranoya?

Probably?

even if there is only a slight motive of wanting to be right instead of simply evaluating the situation neutrally then you are arrogant.

I agree.

[Ronagon]

But, you think I'm accurate?

I think you're accurate much of the time; yes. But I also think maybe you feel the need to prove yourself constantly and, in your haste, get sloppy.

But then again, I think I do that, too.

I would suggest just disregarding any programmed mandate you might have internalized, to be excellent all the time, if it's stressing you out and making you miserable.

[scameter]

That is something infused by my mom because she made me feel as if I am nothing, thus without choice I try to be perfect, even though I know I am far from it and can never be even close to it.

[Thomas Knierim]

I think you should step out of the door and take a deep breath of (hopefully) clean and crisp spring air. This discussion board does not require anyone to be perfect, but it requires you to be respectful.

It is customary in Asia that you take off your shoes before you step into a house. Perhaps we can agree on a similar practice here. Before you step into thebigview.com, please try to leave the ego at the doorstep. ;)

Cheers, Thomas