Science And Logic

[scameter]

You know, there is nothing I enjoy more than using logic and science. It is so satisfying, to ponder something in such a human way as to be a bird flying amongst the clouds, to form natural connections between facts and figures, formations; to identify patterns of things, and to recognize them. And then: to see an entire, completed concept of something in existence into the confines of your logic, and to gasp in awe of it's beauty, of the beauty of a human applying their logic to form a scientific concept in relation to something in existence, deduced into a patternful cube in our minds, that we can manipulate and observe three-dimensionally with the little tendrils of our mind. It is such a wonderful feeling; honestly, this is why I have an ardent distaste for how people view science and logic. The Greeks viewed it correctly: as an extension of ourselves, a natural, philosophical means of observing and being in frequency with nature. But not: a very sterile, inhuman bastardization of the beauty of original science. I love how humanity has evolved, how our consciousness and our minds have expanded into this glorious figure it is now; life has a certain magic to it, a transcendental spirituality unameable, unconceptual, but feelable. Experiencable. And it is this that is so amazing, so startling. I'm sure this post/topic sounds like a ramble, and it sort of is being that I made it at 4am out of an intuitional thought on the subject, but it is necessary, it is apart of me, and I love it. :)

[locomotive]

our very nature is going around problems with thought, patterns, through our unconscious with the impression on the consciousness. besides, when you think about things logically and sciency you get focussed and this is pleasurable.

[rich]

Dear scameter, your post was very eloquently stated, thank you.

[scameter]

Thank you my friends, I found it very pleasurable to write. And locomotive, I agree, solving logical problems and forming logical patterns and connections, especially when creating something such as technology, is very satisfying, especially of one's oh so human curiosity. :)

[scameter]

As a continuation of the issuing of my passion for science, I would like to address my current feelings on the matter.

I still of course have that same passion for logic and science, but I recently have moved even farther into it, accepting secular humanism as my philosophy/belief of choice, and accepting scientific doctine as fact as it is addressed as such by professionals; I have begun studying science and it's practitioners with more thoroughness of late and find it as intriguing as I ever have, and more, nearly as much as philosophy; I have also come to the essential conclusion that the philosophical division of metaphysics are entirely theoretical and fantastical, not meant to be truly translated. Only what is entirely translatable by physical evidence and scientific analysis is indeed true. Human society should adopt the view of secular humanism in order to attain a truly human status as a logic, harmonic, democratically peaceful, logical society, led by science into the valley of truth and hopeful prosperity, furthered by happiness throughout. :)

[scameter]

My position here remain strong still, if not even stronger, for I am gradually moving away from philosophy because of it's entirely too close proximity to real life, into the rather objective and abstract science, literature, and history (especially the latter two), among other things. :)

[Smurf]

so you're gonna stop talking about life, and start living it?

[scameter]

:) Indeed. Which, this desire really began to become present in me when I began trying to read Nietzsche's The Birth of Tragedy. Is all I could think was "If you know how life should be lived, then why describe it? Live it, and use your living of it as an example!" This is my problem with philosophy, and somewhat with science which can oftentimes be boring, lacking any real human feel; unlike myth, literature, and history. :)

[Smurf]

yeah Scam!!! I'm gonna try and get more reality into the education system, perhaps a mentor system? but firstly better trained teachers!!! so it is just not the syllabus that teaches :D

[scameter]

Or perhaps, to integrate some human passion into the drones they call students and teachers, and even more especially into the adults, who are essentially in a pit of desparity and impassionateness.

[scameter]

there is no word desparity...there is despair and there is disparity...passionateness and impassionate are words...but there is no impassionateness...passionless or impassioned and unimpassioned are words...dispassionate and dispassioness are also words...but it is not the same meaning as unimpassioned...or passionless...

And I meant what I said, as both words and physical aspects. Words represent physical things, feelings, and logics. If there is no word "desparity", then I meant despair.

literature is excellent...it was my first love...all the philosophies and truths of life can be found in great literature and the use of language by different authors is an education and pleasure in itself...

Especially mythology.