Salvation/contemplation

[VMRK]

Dear Divine members,


I am new to this group and I am from India.

In India, as you know many Saints and Sages attained Salvation by knowing thyself !

Such locations-especially temples having good vibration.

Is there any one can describe between Salvation and Contemplation (former one is Mukthi and the later one is called Jeeva Samadhi in traditional way)

I would like to share more views if good spiritual friends throw more light in this topic.

wishing you all the best,

with best regards,

Arunachalapithan

[Thomas Knierim]

Divine members? Cross me off that list. ;)

VMRK: In India, as you know many Saints and Sages attained Salvation by knowing thyself !

Self-knowledge, I suppose, is the only method of salvation. The Greeks knew it, too. The inscription of the temple of Apollo in Delphi says: "Gnoti seauteon - know thyself."

Cheers, Thomas

[Smurf]

so I suppose that includes knowing your limits? A wise person practices this!

Salvation comes through comtemplation perhaps? yeah Salvation would be a sort of enlightened state perhaps?

[Thomas Knierim]

It may be questioned whether self-knowledge is the only method. At least I don't know of any other. What concerns the Sanskrit term mukhti, this is probably better translated with liberation, because salvation seems to imply a salvator, whereas liberation can occur without a liberator. What do you think?

There is a difference between mukhti and samadhi. In my understanding, the latter is a method/practice rather than a transcendental state. Here in Thailand people call all forms of meditative/contemplative practices samadhi, in particular vipassana meditation.

But what is the difference between mukthi, moksha, and nirvana? In my view, these are just different names for the same thing.

Cheers, Thomas

[locomotive]

salvation doesn't need a salvator atleast thats the impresion I get from reading the definition of it.
means to let no harm come to you.

[Thomas Knierim]

I believe 'satori' is the Japanese expression for enligthenment (Sanskrit: 'bodhi'), wheras 'kensho' is equivalent to the Sanskrit 'jnana'. However, many people say 'satori' when they actually mean 'kensho'.

Cheers, Thomas

[Smurf]

But what is the difference between mukthi, moksha, and nirvana? In my view, these are just different names for the same thing.

I agree with you there, when someone is fully in control of themselves they realise that there really isn't anything left... it is a hollow feeling at first but then you sort of live on lol :D Trust me i know.