My Friend

[scameter]

For a long time, my mind has been emotionally unstable, which thus resulted in logical and analytical instability. But, recently I have been attempting to apply a new method. There are many rituals I perform everyday, and some of them, such as school, are oftentimes both tiring, difficult to begin, and unfocsing of my mind unless I am in the perfect mood for it, which is extremely rare.
Math makes me very nervous, mainly because it's concepts are so complexed and so unnecessarily formal that they essentially boggle my mind; it requires me to simplify them merely to grasp the concept, and then once that has been accomplished I am able to apply it. But, really it is also the anxiety preceeding the actual act of beginning my math class that makes me so nervous, because I feel inefficient, inaccurace, unintelligent at not being able to grasp easily the given concepts, and slightly scared of the thought of having to face a prolonged, usually hour-long, class of math.
But, when I apply pure logic, with a complementary spice of anger as a focusing tool, I am able to do just that: focus, on my current task and usually perform it completely. But, unlike some people's beliefs, it is not merely anger, rage, and/or hate that is a proper fuel; it requires calm, rationality, and pure analytical and determind logic to properly complete the given task. Which, oddly enough, seems very possible when this ability is applied. I'm curious of everyone's theories on this lifestyle/state of being. :)

[WilliamMckeehan]

well every once and a while i feel like i can use anger to get me to focus it did in PE one year i hurt my foot and i couldnt run without the pain and some kid that can run really fast and always has the fastest time made fun of me .... i normaly have that kind of stuff blow over but for some reason this made me so angry when it was time to run i got up and ran instead of sitting out like i planned i came in first place ... only once with a hurt foot

anyway instead of tryign to hurt the guy or somthing i ran like he was making fun of me that i couldnt do in math class .. if i get frustrated i normaly just lay my head on my desk and give up ... i give up A LOT my memory is so horrbile that i have so much trouble with numbers and math and remembering all the little rules and doing all that stuff :blink: very over welming at times im not sure if what i said ties into ur post at all scameter sorry if it doesnt at all but school like is VERY VERY frustrating to me ... i have ADD so i get distracted easy my memory is horrible short and long term and a lot of the time i just dont care my future never really worryed me when i have no one to take care of in it

so i guess thats the only way i think i might of been on the state of being ? i get off topic to much im trying to stay on it sorry lol

[Venus]

I can't say I've ever been like that pysche. I'm just a typical Arian- going in with my horns in front, not concidering everything else- sometimes. (I trained myself not to do that) I'm the opposite.
If I'm not willing to do something and it needs to by done (and with at least some effort) Iimmediately "go slap bang" into a raged (or not so depending on my predicament) focus- if it's worth it...
That has been a gift for me. If something if rather dreadful that needs to be done- like attending a maths class. I say "get it over and done with" and block any anxieties because I know what will happen if I did- sort of denying the fact that I'm nervous, anxious and/or resentful. Just going in and doing it.

That raged focus and/or a mental anxiety block has helped me a lot in life. I never used it that much though... lol... never really needed to.

But there is a point where you become so focused that you disregard other people's emotions.

But I have pondered this rage- I think it is a bit like andrenaline. Rage (depending on what sort) is a sort of temporary power beyond control (for some people that is)

Yes, I see it as a sort of adrenaline to "keep us going a little bit longer"

Please excuse my lecture...
:lol: :lol:

[locomotive]

I don't think I need to reply on every sentance you wrote.
anger is the dark side (star wars). I believe what you do when you pull up your angry spirit is that you guide your will to the task at hand. I think experiences with difficulty and inexperience with overcoming it is the result for your distractions that make you dream of overcoming it, hate the task and give you the thought that you might just not be able to do it which ofcourse makes you anxues because you want to finish the unfinished bisness. To overcome difficulty you must try again, clear your mind, then the thought accurs that are going to do some math and then start doing it. In some time you will see that this is the only way, you know the ending of suffering is in the suffering(problem) the beginning of suffering is in greed for the end of the problem, life is suffering. You overcome it with patience, persistence(but not the meaningless kind).

So the power in angry is the thing you are angry about. This gives you your path but you really don't need the angryness. The angryness is just a form of clearing the mind.

[Venus]

Yes to me is a sort of form of reliving stress, ect. Providing it makes you better and you don't offend anyone...

Yes I believe it is better if you find a path you prefer, that way the results will be better.
Providing that that the option is availible...

now i see math in almost everything and i enjoy it....
So do I. My mathematical abilty was quite average and although I did/do enjoy maths I was embarrassed (like Scameter mentioned) but I preserved "I must be good, I will be better. And I will enjoy it when I overcome the difficulties- it might be agony now, but I will enjoy it later."
And I practised everyday. Studied methods ect.

I know I might not be excellent now. But I can sure compete against most of the poeple I know.
Lol...
]frustration can lead to anger...

or it can challenge you to use your creative abilities...which can be quite pleasant...to adjust your mindset...

Very true. I like a little competition... Lol...


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[fu*]

That was a bebate??????

Great! Now I know your feelings..your beliefs. But weren't those all posted in the other threads?

F.....U

[Thomas Knierim]

I don't mean to be fussy, but there is no recognisable topic here, so I moved this one.

A formal debate requires a clearly defined topic, a philosophical problem for example, or a theory/thesis which can then be adressed by all contributors. Minor digressions are okay, but they must serve the topic in some way.

Cheers, Thomas

[Smurf]

I must say that by reading the Sword of Truth fantasy series by Terry Goodkind, it shows that the "hero" uses anger to his benefit. suggesting that anger is a neutral power and has no positive or negative swayings. perhaps when you are frustrated this changes it, but anger is not a feeling according to the book. your thoughts?

[WilliamMckeehan]

sorry thomas ... its not fussy it is your website


i dont know about any body else but i will try to stay on topic ... i get off them a lot :blink: sorry again

[scameter]

Right. Which is why a mix of both logic and anger is required.

[locomotive]

panic is to get away from. anger is to confront.

[scameter]

Fear is to confront. Reckless anger is to be lost. Logic and anger are a powerful combination, if used correctly.

[Smurf]

uh huh...yes an occassional tantrum can be quite effective...

:lol: :lol:

Fear is to confront

how so my friend, i do not understand? :unsure:

Reckless anger is to be lost

yes true, a beast with no brain know nothing?

But Logic and anger are a powerful combination, if used correctly.

then this! happens :D