Alcohol Problem

[WilliamMckeehan]

hello, my name is william mckeehan and i have a alcohol problem :lol:

but is not the kind u might think i dont drink i never have unless u count the time my dad told me to take a drink of his beer when i was 5
but i dont drink alcohol infact my problem us I HATE IT everything about it the thought of a loved one drinking any kind of alcohol at all just makes me sickly MAD :angry: i wish i didnt do this because its not good :( my girl friend even drinks ... not a lot as she tells me but i just cant help it when she does i get so angery and try so hard to not tell her to not do it she is her own person and can do what she wants but it just makes me feel so horrible when she does it i have made her a little angery some times when i try to confront her about this im not good with words i dont think she really understands what im trying to say but i wish i could... or should i just forget about it? is this just stupid? but she isnt even of age she as been drinking sence she was 11 :cry: it makes me sad i dont truely know what my problem is should i just forget about it? or should i actualy explain how much it hurts me and make people try and stop?

thanks i take this way out of control i just cant help it

[scameter]

Well, yes, it is her life, but she is also apart of yours, and if she likes you then you should be able to discuss your issue with her. And it IS NOT BAD. My dad's dad drank and ignored him for his entire life, making him deeply depressed. To me, drinking is horrible. It makes you lose calm and rationality. And, if that is indeed what you think too, then don't think it's wrong to feel such things. Express them, talk to people about it, especially your girlfriend. She deserves it, as do you. :)

[sonrisa]

Will, maybe your girlfriend is merely drinking for the thrill of it, in which case she'll hopefully outgrow it. When my friends & I were underage we hung out in bars alot. We all had fake ID's, & we had our lushes- folx who were legal & we give them $ to go up to the bar & get our drinks for us. It was the whole thrill thing of doing something you're not supposed to be doing. Once we all got legal the thrill was gone, & our bar-hopping became drastically reduced as we moved on to other things.

Otoh, your girlfriend may already have a serious drinking problem- alcohol is a dangerous way to get your kicks- but only she can do something about it. You might want to check out Alateen (click here) (http://www.al-anon.org/alateen.html) It's a support program designed especially for teens who have a friend or family member with a drinking problem, & if there's a group in your area, they may be able to give you pointers on how to deal with your girflriend. Good Luck! :)

[WilliamMckeehan]

hello thanks for all the advice

scameter im glad theres someone that thinks the same way i do :)

sonrisa well it is a little odd she doesnt get a thrill from it and she doesnt do it much her family doesnt care and she gets it mostly from her brother which i think that might be a reason she does it?

but i talked to her for a long time last night like i do every night but i told her how much it hurts me and she has pretty much stoped for me :( but thats not a good feeling either i dont know i will work it out thanks for the advice i need to go i will post more later :thumbsup:

thanks for the advice though

[Smurf]

hey drinking beautiful drinks is good the alcohol makes you fell good, but binge drinking or drinking for the alcohol i do not like. i think the problem is that when a country like the US has the legal drinking age at 21 means that young kids are going to start drinking at a younger age which leads to all sorts of problems. compared to a country such as Belgium where drinking alcoholic beverages is an art and a way of life, the drinking age is 16!. but when constraints are outrageous the product is likewise.

but as Scam said it is a part of her life and you might want to try and accept that. maybe talking about it with her would be good. what is cool about love is that the couple open their hearts to one another and talk. they are both rocks for each other in a raging life. and remember to smile :) oh and slow down take it easy and live beautifully :thumbsup:

[WilliamMckeehan]

thank you smurf ur comments helped a lot

she drinks for the reasons u do we talked a lot again which leaves me kind of bummed out today but we came up with she trys to stop and i dont say another word ... but i think i might change that :think: i am going to accept it and tell her to do as she wishes and i will say another word but i think my problem is i have just seen too much horrible things come out of drinking the thought of it makes me sick but oh well guess i should just deal with it

but i want this whole stupid problem to end it ended up makes her lie to me :( because she didnt want me to be upset and mad at her i thought i was carring for her but it just made things worse so ya i will just drop it for good


thanks again :thumbsup:

[Smurf]

yep just remember you are dealing with a whole nother person so be careful and have fun!! :thumbsup: :D

[deepakgang]

Sometimes when i reflect back on all the beer I drink, I feel ashamed.
Then I look into the glass and think about the workers in the brewery
and all of their hopes and dreams. If I didn't drink this beer, they
might be out of work. Then their hopes and dreams would be shattered.
Then I say to myself, "It is better that I drink this beer and let
their dreams come true, than to be selfish and worry about my liver."

-- Jack Handy


I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the
morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day.

--Frank Sinatra


An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time
with his fools.

--Ernest Hemingway


When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.

--Henny Youngman


24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence?

--Stephen Wright


When we drink, we get drunk.
When we get drunk, we fall asleep.
When we fall asleep, we commit no sin.
When we commit no sin, we go to heaven.
Sooooo, let's all get drunk and go to heaven!

-- Brian O'Rourke



Jokes apart, William, you said

i think my problem is i have just seen too much horrible things come out of drinking the thought of it makes me sick

thats the root of the problems. Just tell your girl that you love her the way she is. Only that you are upset of the outcome of heavy drinking.
And you said that she has reduced hers. And so lucky you that you got a wonderful understanding girlfriend. So dont worry. You will get over it soon...

Or else you could read some of the qoutes :thumbsup:

[scameter]

No problem my friend Will. Just accept that you cannot hope to change her life, but merely to show her another possible choice for her. If you care about her enough to do that with that amount of effort, not saying that you do or do not merely "if". I hope i can be of help to you my friend, you have been there for me in the past and i hope to show the same to you. :)

[WilliamMckeehan]

:D thanks all of u but this problem is starting to worry me she knows i hate drinking and she said she doesnt drink that much and only for the good taste im afraid she might be lying she said she hates beer

but just 20 mins ago i was on the phone with her and she said somthing about she wanted a beer so bad and i said i thought u didnt like beer? she was silent for a few moments and then answered with they had other drinks there too (other drinkings meaning alcohol) and before this i just got done saying that if she does drink that she can still visit with me i wont be upset she said she would try to stop for me

but the new problem is her life is not easy she is very depressed person and i think she is a drunk she already lied about never getting drunk but she has a lot i dont mind the drinking for the taste or the drinking at all anymore but she as made a wall of lies which often happens with a lie so im upset and i need to talk to her to see if she is lying im not sure but it seems so but i am not upset and i am going to make that clear i just want the truth

but i dont blame her she has a reason why she lied but i would rather not discuse it

thanks again all :thumbsup:


:Edit: the thoughts of this young beautiful smart wonder girl having to do somthing like this to get rid of ur problems so early in life it competely hurts me to tears :(

[deepakgang]

You could change her. If its to you she comes when ever shes depressed, if its you her addiction is. You have to let her talk . talk about every single problem shes facing. And assure her that you are with her. Her problems are yours too. Now she knows that you love her, thats why she tellin you lies to keep you. But you have to know her problems better and provide support. Different people respond differently to same problems.

[WilliamMckeehan]

:D thanks for the advise


i was wrong thank god! i asked her and it looked pretty ugly for a little bit but it is worked out :D im just going to let her do what she wants and if she wants to do somthing about it she can :)

im very lucky to have her :thumbsup:

[Smurf]

yay he's happy again, good to see that Will :thumbsup:

[WilliamMckeehan]

thanks smurf its good to be back and have this whole stupid thing over with

[deepakgang]

So its these small views in the Big view thats helping people :thumbsup:

[deepakgang]

Love is like a violin. The music may stop now and then, but the strings remain forever :thumbsup:

[Smurf]

Like it :thumbsup:

[scameter]

Well then there's really no need for me to post. I am glad that it's resolved for you my friend Will; but still, do not let her acceptence of her alcohol problem to change your view of alcoholism. If you dislike it then continue to dislike it; or evolve your views accordingly. But don't let anyone change your views. Keep your own identity. :)

[Smurf]

yes :D

[WilliamMckeehan]

oh yes yes! i have not changed my thoughs about drinking it still makes me sick to think about it i still dont want her to drink but oh well much of my family does and the 1 person who doesnt like it takes pain killers so he isnt much better
but oh well

thanks again for the advise everyone i guess theres no more need for this subject sorry to make such a pointless one

[scameter]

*gasp* Will! How could you say this is pointless! It is by no means pointless in any affect. It is in you and thus in existence, and so is important. Very important. This board, hopefully, is one for friends to speculate and advise each other and themselves on various topics. Including ones about ourselves. Please, don't say bull like that. :)

[WilliamMckeehan]

that makes sence <_<

ok :)

[Smurf]

yeah we're here for you man :thumbsup:

[todd]

Did you know that the ancient Greeks drank mostly wine? Water was considered unsafe and it was used mainly for cooking. Maybe this is the reason the ‘spirit’ was so high…

[Smurf]

haha :lol:


actually that was really bad ...

[WilliamMckeehan]

no i didnt know that :o

:D :thumbsup:

[scameter]

lol! So, if a disease was in their water, didn't they think that even in cooking it the disease could still persist? :P

[Smurf]

yes well perhaps when the disease was exposed to extreme temperatures it might die, and perhaps that disease that was eaten by generations ago and survived changed the genes to resist it in later years? This is why it is good for one's child to eat dirt and sand etc. builds up their immune system :thumbsup:

[WilliamMckeehan]

:lol: :D :lol: :D i use to eat dirt :P

[deepakgang]

mmm and your child could probably eat anything with out any trouble with Smurf's theory :D

[scameter]

:P Wow Will, I want you to take a look at something, the amazing thing about discussion and lingual evolution: look at this entire topic, from start to finish, and look at how it has changed from your initial statement. Beautiful, eh? :)

[todd]

lol! So, if a desiese was in their water, didn't they think that even in cooking it the disease could still persist?
Did you ever try cooking with wine?

[MidnightSun]

:lol:

[WilliamMckeehan]

:D i will do that scameter i really like the out come from it :)

[scameter]

lol Me too it is rather interesting. :P And nope deepak, why? :)

[Smurf]

hey everyone i recieved the Prophet, by Kahlil Gibran for Christmas. it is an excellent book.

[WilliamMckeehan]

i got a TV :D :lol: :D :lol:


but i really like how this turned out my girl friend and i are at peace and are doing great i have stopped fussing and getting angry if she drinks but yet she has quit for know so i really like the outcome! it seems it has turned out alright? and know we discuse are Xmas presents

im saving up for a promise ring to give to her i already have one picked out and everything i just need a little bit more money even with my Xmas money i dont have enough but im getting close :thumbsup:

[Smurf]

yes a tv! is it big?

and that is a great idea with the promise ring :thumbsup: but don't make it too owning? you know?

[WilliamMckeehan]

its 19 inch with a remote much bigger then my old one which i have had forever and when i took it apart to fix it ... there was a whole peanut in it :lol:

but oh yes of course the rings meaning is that i will always love her thats all she doesnt have to marry me or stay with me or anything its a gift she may do as she wishs with it :D

[Smurf]

:lol: a peanut :lol:

and yes that's cool mate :thumbsup:

[WilliamMckeehan]

yes i was wow :o how did that get in there

[Smurf]

:lol: yeah, especially a whole one, :D

[WilliamMckeehan]

yes it has had to have been put in there before the tv was put together or somthing because the shell was on it and it was almost a inch long and there was no way it could get in there :lol:

[Smurf]

someone got hungry in the Chinese sweatshops :D

[WilliamMckeehan]

:D yea im guessing so :lol:

[deepakgang]

scamAnd nope deepak, why?

i didnt get u friend...

[scameter]

Shit, sorry deepak my friend. That was for todd. :P Thanks for the friendly courtesy though :)

[Smurf]

ying tong iddle i po :lol:

[deepakgang]

and scam, you are the one who figured out my name... :thumbsup:

[Smurf]

can you figure out mine? :D

[scameter]

Oh, deepak is your name? lol I was just using your screename, "deepakgang", to mean Deepak Gang seperately but related, and with deepak as the title and obviously you are affiliated with it since you chose it lol Now I'm just rambling :P As i so often tend to do. Well, so you're name is Deepak then? :D

[WilliamMckeehan]

i bet u can never guess my name :P lol jk

[deepakgang]

Yes!! My name is Deepak :boxing: B)

[Smurf]

um Will is it Member?

[WilliamMckeehan]

:lol: nope ... its William A. McKeehan :D

[Smurf]

:lol: :lol:

[deepakgang]

tough one to smurf :lol:

[scameter]

Guess mine. :)

[MidnightSun]

Oh oh and mine!

[Smurf]

Hey Scam i already know yours! :D i got it when you emailed me earlier, do you want me to tell?

btw, Deepak my dad spent 8 years in India! up in Kalimpong? when he was growing up

[deepakgang]

Kalimpong is far from my state. mine is in the south india - Kerala. Kalimpong is a nice place i think. hill station or something. your dad was doing some research or something?

scameter and midnightsun doesnt give any clues?
Smurf also :think:

[MidnightSun]

Smurf smurfy murphy...yea hes probly eddy :lol:

[scameter]

If you'd like. Unless the others here would like to gues it beforehand. :)

[Smurf]

EDDY! how crap, not to damn the eddys of the world no. :P

but would you guys like to guess Scam's, they will never do it i don't think

Deepak, he was growing up there, he went to a boarding school in the mountains, and we're going back to India next year! woo hoo :D

[scameter]

lol I agree, they never will. But hey, nothing wrong with trying, and even nothing more wrong with watching and laughing at them trying :P :D

[deepakgang]

now dont be another asheera :)

[scameter]

:P

[Smurf]

heh




thinking :(







Names :nono:


:D

[MidnightSun]

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This post was edited.......


:lol: that was psyche ;) Much text, "..." stuff and always edited in the end. :P

Just dunno whaat to type so i wrote sumthin that makes no sence but anyway...

[scameter]

I tend to make mistakes myself, and often times I do edit. But I also, when I finish my post, try to look over it to conclude that it is complete and has no mistakes. :)

[WilliamMckeehan]

lol i normaly never do that im actualy a pretty good typer? i guess so but i use my computer for gaming i guess u could call me a regualer cyber nerd?

[Smurf]

cyber nerd yeah! :thumbsup:
what games?

oh and nice pic psyche! :)

[scameter]

Oh me too Will, I hardly ever make mistakes anymore, but when I do I try to correct them. And I'm on the computer too; what games do you play?

[scameter]

Umm... :examine:

[WilliamMckeehan]

:o what games do i play.... well if u name it i have probably played it some were at some point of time ... but games i have on my computer that i play regularly? i will make a list i guess :P

Half-life
Half-life 2
Garrys Mod v9.0
Action Half-life
Counter-Strike: CZ
Counter-Strike: Source
Day of Defeat
Day of Defeat: Source
Star Craft
War Craft 3
Quake 3 Arena
C & C Generals
Black & White
Call of Duty
Rome: Total War
Delta Force 2
Delta Force Land Warrior
Battlefield 1942
Battlefield Vietnam
Unreal Tournament 2004

and my brother has a much better computer for gaming so he has ALOT of games

but these are the ones i can play

im best at Day of Defeat :boxing:

[Smurf]

you know my all time fav game? Age of Empires 2 awesome all rounder :thumbsup:

[WilliamMckeehan]

i havnt actualy played that one :o i will more then likely go check it out :thumbsup:

[scameter]

I love Star Wars Galaxies, play it alot everyday. But, other than that I play Star Wars Battlegrounds occasionally, and I loved, still love, Civilization 2. It's later offspring seem rather bloated.

[WilliamMckeehan]

ahh i have played a lot of star wars games im not a fan of the show but the games are pretty good ... most of them anyway :thumbsup:

[deepakgang]

Violent computer games may make people more likely to act aggressively, a study says.
Previous research has found people who play such games are more likely to be aggressive but some say this just shows violent people gravitate towards them.

But a team from the University of Missouri-Columbia said their study which monitored the brain activity of 39 game players suggests a causal link.

The findings were published on the New Scientist website.

The researchers measured a type of brain activity called the P300 response which reflects the emotional impact of an image.

The truth is there are many factors that can lead to violence, such as being withdrawn and isolated, so it is hard to say it is because of one thing

Professor David Buckingham, of the Institute of Education

When shown images of real-life violence, people who played violent video games were found to have a diminished response.

However, when the same group were shown other disturbing images such as dead animals or ill children they had a much more natural response.

When the game players were given the opportunity to punish a pretend opponent those with the greatest reduction in P300 meted out the severest punishments.

Psychologist Bruce Bartholow, the lead researcher of the study which will be published in full in the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology later this year, said: "As far as I'm aware, this is the first study to show that exposure to violent games has effects on the brain that predict aggressive behaviour.

"People who play a lot of violent video games didn't see them as much different from neutral.

"They become desensitised. However, their responses are still normal for the non-violent negative scenes."

The findings will back up what many have argued over recent years with the growth in games with scenes of graphic violence.

[WilliamMckeehan]

the world is violent

[scameter]

The show? :D You mean the story and the movies?

[Smurf]

you haven't played aoe 2??!? woah :o

oh and civ 2 awesome aswell! but i like the city building games. caesar 3, pharaoh, zeus, emperor. fun

[scameter]

I prefer the more civilization/decision games, like Civ. 2. :)

[Smurf]

like the decisions that risk the lives of millions of computer-generated people? :D

[scameter]

Oddly, yes. :D

[Smurf]

hah :lol:
tell me about star wars galaxies?

[scameter]

It's an online MMORPG. It's absolutely perfect. The epitemy of Star wars illustrated in a 3D electrical world. If you like Star Wars, roleplaying, and socializing online, you'd love it. I know I do. :)

[WilliamMckeehan]

MMORPG's i dont play them much but they are pretty cool

i need to reinstall my video card ... but my software CD is not working correctly lol so i dont really have anything to do dont have TV worth watching and laura is only alowed 30 mins on the phone these days so are talking is very limited ... i need a new hobby :lol:

[Smurf]

Scam yes i love doing mmorpgs awesome. i recently played world of warcraft at a friend's place. i think i am in love with a computer game? :think: :D

i love them so much because you can go away from the world outside and place your mind into another thing, be yourself easily. i think? :D

[scameter]

lol No think to it smurf. That's exactly the reason I do it, that and to be apart of the Star Wars universe, which I love. :) And, unfortunately, in Galaxies people are always talking about how WoW is taking over Galaxies. It's only propaganda, but unfortunately it makes me hate WoW immediately, even thought I've never even played it. And yes I agree psyche, that's how I use Galaxies alot. That, and things such as sword fighting when I can (which I wish was more often, if not constantly), debate if my mind as at least somewhat clear, and reading, particularly fantasy/sci-fi books and even more specifically, Star Wars novels, which I always have one I'm reading. :)

[WilliamMckeehan]

i have heard galaxies was very good but then yes i hear a GOT about WoW ... i loved war craft 2 and war craft 3 when they were RTS platform but WoW came out and my friend got hooked i havent played it but i sat there and watched for hours :lol: i guess it depends on what u like you wouldnt play a game about cars ... if u didnt like cars so people who want to be in a MMORPG and have fun might pick ether wow or galaxies ... what i have learned is games are games u dont have to like them all but theres no need to fight about it :thumbsup:

[scameter]

:P We're not fighting. Merely discussing. :) But, unfortunately, I think that WoW is rather normal, with it's same use of elves, dwarves, orcs, and similar entities as it's primary species, just as every other fantasy story has done since Tolkien's brilliant invention of them, oddly deriving them from mythology. Star Wars is entirely new and unique, even though it too is oddly heavily wrought from mythology :D, and I think it is unfortunate the amount of people on Galaxies who either know nothing about it and only play it for the sci-fi aspect of it, or who saw A New Hope (Episode 4) as a kid and then didn't see or read or think about any of the rest of it again, and thought well hey, I liked the first one so I'll play this, even though the game is heavily drawn from all the movies and Expanded Universe (the games, books, comics, etc. except the movies) and thus their experience will be only half-true. But, if they enjoy it, more power to them. :)

Wow, I sound very southern tonight. :D

[WilliamMckeehan]

yes i understand what ur saying :thumbsup:

[scameter]

:P

[Smurf]

no World of Warcraft is very complex, heaps of stuff going on there. and once you play it you will see it is not ordinary

because the graphics are so different from conventional elves dwarves etc. they are very warcraft 3 type. i could go on for hours. :D

[WilliamMckeehan]

yes as i watched my friend play it i seen many things from War Craft 3 in there like the building and such :D

[Smurf]

yeah it is cool, being down there and doing stuuf, like Killing Orcsies! :D

[scameter]

The graphics may be different or better, but the concept of a fantastical world full of Elves, Dwarves, and such as that canon to fantasy is merely replicated in things such as that and EverQuest.

[WilliamMckeehan]

that is true but everyone has there flavor i personally like First Person Shooters and Real Time Strategies but all games are good in there own way i enjoy them a lot they get me out of this world ... specialy when im upset or dont want to really think i will use video games to help me get away ... music is good for this too get some headphones and lay in the dark with some music :thumbsup: i enjoy that or having a deep conversation with some one that is easy to talk to

thoughs are my favorite things to do actualy :D

[scameter]

I like civilization builders, some strategies, flying games (plane or otherwise), and Star Wars games. Oh, and RPGs are my most favorite! :)

[Smurf]

yep rpgs cool :thumbsup:

but unfortunately my shitbox (sorry tom) computer can't handle huge games which is annoying :angry:

[Smurf]

yeah i know, i'm gonna save up :)

[scameter]

I may be poor, but my computer is one of the best and most highly advanced out there. :D

[Smurf]

damn, my computer is very crap. :cry: i think it is my destiny to be frustrated with computers not working. :angry:

[WilliamMckeehan]

mines is ok i just had to format i lost everything :o but it works :P

[Smurf]

ooooh formatting not good
:o

[WilliamMckeehan]

ya it was a big pain :knockout:

[Smurf]

damn so virus or something? or just a sweep clean start off?

[deepakgang]

Bad hardware also kill programs

[WilliamMckeehan]

i just needed to clean it up i do miss some of my old programs though

[scameter]

My computer is an HP, 64 athlon 3500+ processor, 1GB RAM memory, 250GB hard drive CD and DVD ROM, and a CD burner. :)

[scameter]

Yep, that too.

[WilliamMckeehan]

scameter urs beats mine :D

mine is a 500$ E-machines that i saved up for


AMD Sempron 3000+ 1.99 GHz RADEON 9550 512 ram

my processor is crap it cant run my video card to well :blink:

[Smurf]

Dammit Scam such Irony! :D

Will what do you expect it is 500$? :lol:

I will try to describe my crap heap

900 mhz processor ok i suppose, then: 375 mb of mem ok alright, graphics car integrated ahhhh 8 mb nooooooooooooooooooooo it is crap :angry: umm 20 gb hard drive ok i suppose
cd burner ok, and awesome stereo system though :thumbsup: oh and no lan capabilities euh
so really it is crap isn't it?

but that is why i stick to games such as aoe2, diablo 2 etc. i tend to play WoW and other games at friend's places.

I think i have had a lifetime of frustration with computers I just want a working computr that is good :cry:

[scameter]

:D Oh, I have speakers too btw. :) And, it's the memory Will. 1 GB is all you need to make it run smooooothly B) :P Oh and btw, mine was only about 500 or 600 $ :) from Best Buy, with a 2 year warrenty.

[Smurf]

oh just rub it in why don't you? :D

[Smurf]

i call it my brainiac barbie dell
:lol: :lol:

ooh yes alienware, but they support microsoft so not for me :P

I wish i had a laptop :(

[scameter]

Me too. *comfort* Do you guys think Apple or microsoft is better?

[WilliamMckeehan]

microsoft jsut because i never used apple



and its just the ram? i am going to upgrade ram i will probably upgrade that first :lol:

[Smurf]

Me too. *comfort*

Ohh thanks Scam :)

Do you guys think Apple or microsoft is better?
Neither...... I support GNU!

[scameter]

No problem smurf :) And, I personally like both of them myself. :D I think the Apple technology looks better though, more advanced. But, that's just me. :) And yes it is most likely mainly your ram midnight; I'd try to at least get the next level from yours, if not 1 GB. :)

[MidnightSun]

:cheers: :alcoholic:

[Venus]

I've only used an Apple computer once. I think it's alright. But I always use Microsoft computers.
Lol... I'm using a laptop right now...

[scameter]

:P

lol Midnight. :D

[Smurf]

heh as we are talking computers, midnight is drinking Yeah! :thumbsup: :lol:

i think i might have a solution to the images problem guys! :)

i will ask my super nerd friend (don't worry he doesn't mind being called a nerd, sort of strengthens him in a way, it is him pretty much) if we can post our images on his website and then relay them here from there. cool hey? :D

[deepakgang]

That would be great. :thumbsup:

[Venus]

Thank you very much!