Why Is Peace So Hard

[venom mama]

i really don't know why

i don't understand why everyone hates everyone else


what's wrong with eveyone?
why is so much suffering allowed to be endured?


harmony
peace

why not

[sonrisa]

Vgirl, if you live in south GA, like you posted one time, then come on over to Columbus & do SOA (http://www.soaw.org) with us. It's the weekend before Thanxgiving :) This year it's more important than ever to be there becuz there's a bill up before Congress to close the place.

[MidnightSun]

Peace is hard coz humans are animals which are too violent, u know its nature, everyone fights to show they are the best and to get the best partner. Freaky. WANNA HARMONY, NOW.

[venom mama]

yes, harmony now! yes!

[Thomas Knierim]

venomgirl: what's wrong with eveyone?

It's the human condition, basically. I believe that humans have the potential to live in peace and in absence of suffering. Unfortunately, that potential is rarely ever realised. The usual obstacles are ignorance, greed, hatred, envy - in short- the whole array of unwholesome attitudes.

venomgirl: harmony, peace, why not

That's easy to say for a relatively privileged member of the human race, such as yourself. For those born in poverty, ignorance, crime, oppression, it's an uphill battle.

Cheers, Thomas

[venom mama]

yes









:peace:

[todd]

Mankind history since the beginnings we know is an enumeration of wars.
We should consider ourselves lucky because the discovery of the atomic bombs induced the fear of total annihilation and wars virtually stopped. Many of us do not even know what war means. The Americans never experienced a war on their land, they only have the soldier's view upon it. There is no peaceful grandpa there to tell his story. Your grandma didn't tell you how was she running with your baby mother through the cornfield while bullets were shot upon them or how she was raped.
Fear is keeping us safe today.
Of course, we still have our bullies around, but no major confruntation took place in the past 60 years...wow, this is an absolute record for humanity. Let's hope it will last, and "God Save the atomic bomb".

[sonrisa]

Todd, that's not exactly true. Both the Revolution & the Civil War were fought here on our land. However, there is nobody still living who has experienced those wars. But there are still ramifications- the Civil War, aka the War of Northern Aggression, is the main reason that the South is the South, & the rest of the country, well the rest of the country has moved on.

Do peaceful Grandpa's tell their war stories? My Dad was in the Air Force during WWII. He never liked talking about WWII, only did so when he was pushed to, & then his answers were short, it was obvious he wanted to change the subject. But maybe he was an exception.

These days we have a regime in the White House that claims to have no compunctions about using the A-bomb & other nuclear weapons. Perhaps your last line should be, "God save us from the atomic bomb".

[todd]

Exactly what I was trying say.
Please check the link below, I think it will change your opinion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_confl...licts_in_Europe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conflicts_in_Europe)

[cooxman]

The answer to this at the microcosmic level : individual mental anarchy (depression, madness, egoism ; everyone has a cause to advance :think: :ph34r:, that not everyone will agree with :nono: ( aka conflict) and not everyone will allow to be advanced(aka conflict resolution). :boxing:
The answer to this at the macrocosmic level : Organisational Tyranny (Holy-wood & mediahouses ; weapons & security Industry)
More bang for your bucks.
:wallbash:

[sahyo]

mental anarchy (depression, madness, egoism ; everyone has a cause to advance :think: :ph34r: , that not everyone will agree with :nono: ( aka conflict) and not everyone will allow to be advanced(aka conflict resolution). :boxing:

that isn't anarchy

:)

[Kether]

I don't think that violence is part of human nature. If human needs are satisfied, then people won't fight for them.
Take water, for example. In our affluent western world, we take it for granted, and it is inconcievable that we would ever wage war over it. But in some areas in the world, water is so scarce that people do.
As for the idea that human nature can never change, the fact that we no longer consider cannibalism a duty as some of our ancestors did proves it wrong.

[Smurf]

We have no peace because people who talk like : " ohh i wish there was peace blah blah etc" do you actually want this? with all your heart? then go out and do something about it because obviously the people who are greedy and malicious and stuff ain't gonna stop cause it feels too good to them and they haven't realised this because their minds are too clouded with thoughts of themselves only. another problem is that the human being's ability to not be able to comprehend large numbers.
* 640 million children do not have adequate shelter
* 500 million children have no access to sanitation
* 400 million children do not have access to safe water
* 300 million children lack access to information
* 270 million children have no access to health care services
* 140 million children have never been to school
* 90 million children are severely food-deprived
They just can't get it into their heads and realise that : "ohh yeah that's pretty big". or they actually say this but then are like: " oh poor kids, oh well back to work" and then wipe any conscious guilt from their minds. this Truly is a very bad world.

[Ronagon]

Peace is so hard, because everybody has radically different measures of how they define it.

For some people, "peace" is accomplished through everybody being cultivated in the ways of logic.

For some, "peace" is accomplished through subsistance just being endlessly thrown at people.

For some, "peace" is peace for only them and their friends, accomplished through exploiting everyone else.

For others, "peace" is where you terrorize and butcher non-conformists into conformity.

For others, "peace" is accomplished through massive eradication of human beings.

For still others, "peace" is where you assume people are only "peaceful" and "harmless" when they're powerless, so you do everything you can to keep them wretched and miserable... which you see as better to them being powerful and threatening.

The truth is that there are so many competing agendas and philosophies, that there are radically different methods of achieving "peace", all viciously competing against each other constantly, and just causing the chaos we have today.

[Smurf]

The reason Peace is so hard is because no one is doing anything big to promote it. The people in charge of the major contries have failed miserably in this aspect.

[venom mama]

peace is hard because we like to fight

[WilliamMckeehan]

Peace :lol: :lol: that is a complete dream if you socialize you will never be in peace with everyone when i socialize with strangers i normaly get along with them because i dont like conflict so i for the most part agree with these people inless it is somthing i dont agree with at all but if it is somthing small and pointless i jsut agree and go along with whatever they are saying ... because in life you have to socialize so i try to practice this i have VERY bad communication skills i stumble over my words i have trouble looking people in the eyes and many other problems that make talking to people hard but i guess my point is

Peace and Harmony is only possible if u are alone

which personally i am very comfortable with being alone :thumbsup:

[Smurf]

Amen to that brotha :D :thumbsup:

[WilliamMckeehan]

:lol: :lol: :)

[Smurf]

Will: which personally i am very comfortable with being alone super.gif

we are so alike it's not funny!
:D :D

[WilliamMckeehan]

oh i am sorry to laugh at your comment ...

but yes it seems like we are :D

[Smurf]

oh no no no.. laugh away, have you seen my signature?

[WilliamMckeehan]

:lol: oh no i didnt :D
what i can normaly laugh at my self for most things but i will keep that in mind
:thumbsup:

[Smurf]

Well actually it started off seriously as "if you can't laugh at yourself then who can you laugh at?" then ha ha funny man Scameter said: "You :D" then etc...

[locomotive]

solving problems temporarily thus not solving them. But ignorant people see it as solving.

[Scythe]

Peace is so hard because it is part of humans. Humans have always fort, and as long as we exist we will continue to fight. What is normally considered good; Joy and peace are only one half of existence, the other half being Hate and Violance. I highly doubt that humans could live out only half of their natural existence.

[TruthSeeker]

Why?

[Scythe]

Why don’t I think humans can live out only one half of existence natural existence? Because that would be going against nature, I’m sure you’ll agree that humans cannot control nature, nor can we shape it. Therefore to live without the bad half of human nature and existence is to (in a way) change nature. Something I do not believe humans have the power to do.

[TruthSeeker]

Really? What is all this talk about climate change then? And where did all those majestic centennary forests all go!?!? ;)

[Scythe]

So humanity wrecked some things, nature will go marching relentlessly on and eventually humanity will be no more. Besides destruction is not the same as control. We may have a great inability to find equilibrium with nature, but does that give us power over it? The more we damage nature the more heavily we pay for it, this does not show control. Oil for example, when we run out of oil nature has deprived us of one of our most heavily used resources, yet we are powerless to do anything about it when the oil has run out.

[TruthSeeker]

I never said we are more powerful then nature. What I said is that we are capable of changing things. We just need to concentrate on changing things for better, rather then for worse.

There's no need to fight.

[Scythe]

I agree that we need to concentrate on changing things for the better. But I still feel that humans will fight as long as we exist, there are too many differences between us all that cause conflict.

[TruthSeeker]

Yes! We have lots of differences, don't we? In fact, that is probably the only thing that we all have in common! So what is the secret of peace?

Well, it's really simple! All that we need to do is recognize those differences and value them as things that enriches our lives! Why fight just because we are different? If diversity is something considered to be good, then why fight?

Here's an example. You like heavy metal. I personally dislike that and prefer classical music. If I accept, respect and value our differences, then we can co-exist without any problem! Why would we fight just because we like different kinds of music!? ;)

The day we all find unity in our diversity, we will have peace... :)

:peace:

[Oli]

"Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one "

- Imagine, John Lennon.

[Scythe]

But some people's views are so extreme that they feel the need to kill others. Do you really think, if they are so dead set in their ways that they are prepared to kill that they are going to accept others views as life enriching?

P.S. I like Classical music as well, just for the record :)

[TruthSeeker]

That's the tricky part. ;)

[Scythe]

Yes it is lol, never the less an admirable goal if you aim to bring peace to the world