Consciousness Suffering?

[VossistArts]

I understand to some extent that being human and suffering are inseperable. The decaying and dying body is always a cause of some suffering I suppose. We suffer or are aware of suffering and distress consciously but does consciousness sufffer? If our consciousness were free from the rules assigned to our bodies, what could make it suffer that wasnt something that could be overcome? I ask this question mostly to ask another sort of relative question that I wasnt sure of where to post. heh sneaky huh?>

Does anyone here know anything about firewalkers? If they can do what they say they do, that would seem to suggest that probably any kind of suffering could be overcome through the power of mind. I dont know if it bullshit or not though. Does anyone here? :)

[kskf]

When talking about suffering, you presuppose a subject which is to sense the suffering. That subject need not be you although you "talk" about this. The reference to the term "suffering" simply implies the existence of a "someone" who will be the carrier or the "suffering". If that "carrier" is not to sense the "suffering", then such carrier is similar to a non-carrier and thus "suffering" would have no connection with this "someone".

If there is a "someone" who can and do sense "suffering", and he practises his mind to "shut" the mind from processing anything (be it originates from external sense data such as fire on his/her foot or from internally generated stimulus such as a recollection of his/her spouse who has recently died), he "does not" suffer for the time being. But that "does-not" suffer is conditional upon the presence of "suffering" which but for his deliberate practice would still be felt by himself/herself. So it is not the elimination of "suffering" (c.f. to make something vanish by some magical power) but simply a conversion of the "feeling" of suffering into the internal tension of maintaining the mental control and practice to not feeling the suffering (c.f. "eliminating" physical matters, such as eliminating 1 gram of uranium by converting it into pure energy, gama ray, and transmit it to outer space so that on earth there is no such matter (or energy) any more, but in this process, you have to use up some energy and matters to start off the conversion and you need to "organise" and "control" the process). Mere mental control does not work in eliminating suffering, as Buddha has pointed out that most guru at his time who were famous in meditation have not found the way to "eliminate" suffering. They are just evading suffering.