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KipMazuy
2nd March 2005, 05:46 AM
"Everyone
has a set of beliefs
about how life should be.

And out of security
they live their lives
according to those
beliefs,
protecting the beliefs
finding solutions
to keep their lives
within these boundaries.

It is your security.
It is comfortable.
It is what you know.


But this is your prison.

It is what keeps you
locked away never knowing
the full bliss
that you are.

Yet, life has other plans.
Life is always changing

and the changing
pushes you out of your comfort zone.

And when you are pushed out
of your comfort zone
you have two choices:
You can surrender to the new circumstances
or you can fight it.

If you surrender
and feel the intensity,
the raw vulnerability
that comes with
a new circumstance,
you will expand your awareness,
more life will flow through you
and there will be greater freedom,
greater happiness,
greater love.

For beyond your beliefs,
this love is what you are.

Or you can fight change.
And in the resistance
you create stress and suffering

and sometimes it might seem
you won.

But you only forced the lid
down on the volcano
and one day it will erupt.
It always does.

Life always changes
whether you allow it to or not.

It is the love and peace
that you are
that never changes.

It is awareness that is eternal
and if you rest in this awareness
you will always be bathing in peace.


Example:

Say every day at noon
you like to stop for lunch
and eat your cheese sandwich.

For twenty years now
every day you eat
your cheese sandwich.

But then one day
you go to your
local sandwich maker
and he is out of cheese.

He has some nice grilled mushrooms,
some vegetarian hot dogs,
but no cheese.

You storm out
and go straight to his
competition, Mo's Deli.

But Mo's Deli is also out of cheese.
So is Anthony's subs,
and Kay's Cafe.

Even the grocery store has no cheese.
A big empty shelf in the dairy section.

It feels like a conspiracy.
The world is against you,
making fun of you,
taking your best friend,
the cheese sandwich away from you.

There is pain in your heart.
Your world is collapsing.

It feels as though you are going to die.
And it is true.

When you surrender to the fact
that there is no cheese to be found,
when you accept that there will be
no cheese sandwich today,
a part of you dies.

A limiting part of you dies.
The part of you that holds the illusion
that a cheese sandwich is important.

And when you humbly let this part of you die,
when you sit in the intensity,
you will see you are still there.
You are not dead,
the world has not ended.


Rather in the acceptance of change
there is greater peace and bliss.
You feel that much more free,
that much lighter.

No longer imprisoned by
your need for a cheese sandwich,
('What a silly thing to need' you think now)

you order that grilled mushroom sandwich
and it tastes good.
Delicious in fact.
Even better than the cheese sandwich.

And you wonder,
then hope,
then fear:
they better have grilled mushrooms
available tomorrow.



But life always changes.

It is the love and peace
that you are
that never changes.

It is awareness that is eternal
and if you rest in this awareness
you will always be bathing in nurturing peace.

Blessings,

Kip"


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todd
23rd March 2005, 08:05 PM
A life in which you always surrender, this is what the Power always desire to achieve from you.
You will be nothing but a slave, a slave of your own or other’s will. What do you need consciousness for then? To contemplate and meditate?
Yes, surrender and acceptance is part of life, but so is fight. You don’t fight, you do not know life, you do not live, you just contemplate and meditate on it.
There is a saying, ‘you have to live full to accept death’, this means you have to live your life, to eat and drink, to fight, to win, to get defeated, to meditate, to suffer, to dream, to play, to love, to have children, to experience as much as you can. A whole life in acceptance is a life in slavery, it means no action to fulfill your desires, your dream, just contemplating and meditating on them. Is like having sex with a sheep instead of a woman and being happy you had an orgasm… what a revelation!
Knowing your body, knowing your mind, knowing your own and only self is not a cause but a mean in understanding. Imagine yourself living in a glass bubble, invisible for others, unable to be seen, to communicate, to touch, to smell or interact in any way. You can contemplate and meditate forever, but this doesn’t mean that you live.

sahyo
23rd March 2005, 10:41 PM
You can contemplate and meditate forever, but this doesn’t mean that you live.

called love-meditating isn't 'not living'

love-meditating isn't 'someone doing something'

todd
23rd March 2005, 10:53 PM
Do you consider love can be known without living it?
Do you see love-meditating possible without previous real love experience?

sahyo
23rd March 2005, 11:06 PM
Do you consider love can be known without living it?

can imagined, as though can "known" "living it", loving?

Do you see love-meditating possible without previous real love experience?

can "previous real love experience" as though wasn't loving?

:)

todd
30th March 2005, 09:44 PM
In my opinion, imagination is born out of previous experience and grown up by intellect. If you let it run absolutely free it won't make sense anymore and it will loose it's envisionable beauty. This means that love cannot be really imagined if you did not feel it, though chances are that you may experience it by uncontrolled imagination (among myriads of other imagined feelings), but can you know it is what it is?
Do you think that if you would completely lack the sense of touch, you would be able to imagine how scratching an itch feels like?

sahyo
31st March 2005, 12:17 AM
if you would completely lack the sense of touch,
you would be able to imagine how scratching an itch feels like?

B) ....but is there a-you which imagines

but can you know it is what it is?

is there a you which can know?

priyachandru
31st March 2005, 01:40 PM
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If at all you surrender and accept life's changes then there is nothing to motivate you, life becomes all the more dull and lazy... no great dreams to be acheived... I think changes shouldn't be accepted blindly, some changes are to enhance and modify our present beleifs but not just to abandon them just like that <_<

sahyo
31st March 2005, 02:51 PM
can a-you-who ?

todd
31st March 2005, 09:21 PM
is there a you which can know?

is there a you which can wonder?
is there a you which can ask?
is there a you?
Do you think there is a you?

I think there is a you, I think there is a me, not necessarily independent of each other, but enough to call them you or me.

sahyo
1st April 2005, 12:19 AM
I think there is a you, I think there is a me,
not necessarily independent of each other, but enough to call them you or me.

is thinking a-you-me thinking?

sonrisa
1st April 2005, 03:29 AM
Originally posted by todd@Mar 30 2005, 11:44 AM
In my opinion, imagination is born out of previous experience and grown up by intellect.

Todd, maybe I watch & read way too much sci-fi, but I have to disagree with you here. I think it's pretty safe to say that nobody has experienced having their body beamed from one place to another, like on Star Trek, or going thru a wormhole like on Stargate (to name just 2 things off the top of my head) but that hasn't stopped writers from coming up with that stuff & other sci-fi stuff that nobody has experienced. Some folx have better imaginations than the rest of us.

todd
12th April 2005, 10:06 AM
Starting from description sci-fi is not pure imagination, most of concepts are based on reality. If we cannot explain something it doesn't mean we cannot describe it. Time travel, wormholes - something that science doesn't exclude, something that every human being dreamed before.
Pure imagination is like a painting that doesn't represent or connect to anything known, that even the author cannot explain, but is inspiring beauty. It cannot be thought at, deducted, so it cannot be explained.