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venom mama
25th November 2004, 07:07 AM
Who stole your halo?

venom mama
26th November 2004, 08:39 AM
since no one else wants to say

i tell you how i lost mine......


i pulled it off


broke it in half



laughed hahaha



and said



too bad for you




i'm gonna be bad

Nick_A
26th November 2004, 10:24 AM
Hello Venomgirl

I guess I lost my halo at an early age if indeed I ever had one. One reason I did was because those around me pretending to flaunt their halos seemed to be. how can I describe it,......"naive".

Later in life I saw that the halos disappeared and were replaced with attitudes such as "payback's a bitch". Instead of trying to appear special by wearing halos, specialty for many was somehow associated with "giving them the business." Now ater a while this seemed equally naive.

There is an old Arabic expression about "the man who felt sorry for himself for having no shoes until he met a man who had no feet". It sorta takes the edge off.

So the question for me became if the one thing that these two completely different attitudes have in common is being naive, maybe the best alternative is the attempt to stop being naive and face reality. Now for a broad shouldered Aries man like myself to recognize this isn't easy. Me Naive????? HaH! Well I asked to open my eyes to the truth so I really can't bitch about it. It became obvious that the common sense thing to do is drop the attitudes and let the eyes open. Of course that is much easier said than done. Instead of beginning to see gorgeous naked princesses, I started to see fat naked emperors instead. Not at all appealing as it shoud be but trying to become a bit less naive can be a shock.

a random hack
26th November 2004, 04:37 PM
how do avoid becoming cynical ?

bito
26th November 2004, 07:14 PM
since no one else wants to say

i tell you how i lost mine......


i pulled it off


broke it in half



laughed hahaha



and said



too bad for you




i'm gonna be bad


Hell when the halo is on, hell when the halo is off. Good vs. evil self. We talk about battles and wars...this is the only battle we are fighting.


Of course that is much easier said than done. Instead of beginning to see gorgeous naked princesses, I started to see fat naked emperors instead. Not at all appealing as it shoud be but trying to become a bit less naive can be a shock.

When we see gorgeous naked princesses (or princes :)) , we are actually seeing fat naked emperors as well. They just haven't gained the weight yet. Once we the princesses become emperors, well, sh**, what to see but nothing? Pain, oi vey!


how do avoid becoming cynical ?

I don't think we can avoid this self-translation...good self...evil self...good self...evil self...like a merry-go-round we circle our angel and our devil... :blink:

jesupocaplypse
26th November 2004, 10:49 PM
I've spent years trying to put all the tiny fragments back together, after it shattered. Piece by piece. Slowly but surely, it begins to take shape again.

Nick_A
27th November 2004, 12:17 AM
Last night I was at a friend's party and watched the movie "Groundhog Day" which played on a cable station. Anyhow, it expanded on Nietzsche,s concept of eternal recurrence and changed it into a repeating day. Well it took many many repeating days for our egotistic hero weatherman to finally see the foolishness of his egotistic defenses. Being able to finally see life in the raw he was able to get beyond his egotism and deveolp not only compassion but the ability to use it, to act on it...to have his life reflect it rather than just lip service. All the attitudes were no longer necessary since all they do is get in the way of one who has begun to smell the coffee. He had begun to outgrow his naive defense mechanisms.

Must it take so many life times or, in the movie's case, repeating days, for a person to get beyond their naive egotism to become as he did, a real person??? Accept for an exceptional few, it probably is so.

venom mama
27th November 2004, 05:35 AM
Originally posted by Nick_A@Nov 26 2004, 11:24 AM
Hello Venomgirl

I guess I lost my halo at an early age if indeed I ever had one. One reason I did was because those around me pretending to flaunt their halos seemed to be. how can I describe it,......"naive".

Later in life I saw that the halos disappeared and were replaced with attitudes such as "payback's a bitch". Instead of trying to appear special by wearing halos, specialty for many was somehow associated with "giving them the business." Now ater a while this seemed equally naive.

There is an old Arabic expression about "the man who felt sorry for himself for having no shoes until he met a man who had no feet". It sorta takes the edge off.

So the question for me became if the one thing that these two completely different attitudes have in common is being naive, maybe the best alternative is the attempt to stop being naive and face reality. Now for a broad shouldered Aries man like myself to recognize this isn't easy. Me Naive????? HaH! Well I asked to open my eyes to the truth so I really can't bitch about it. It became obvious that the common sense thing to do is drop the attitudes and let the eyes open. Of course that is much easier said than done. Instead of beginning to see gorgeous naked princesses, I started to see fat naked emperors instead. Not at all appealing as it shoud be but trying to become a bit less naive can be a shock.
just because you weren't acting like everyone else doesn't mean you were naive. just because everyone else had the payback's a bitch attitude doesn't mean you had to conform to their ways. there are genuinly good people out there. why can't your reality include beautiful naked princesses? you only let down yourself if you choose to go with the flow.

venom mama
27th November 2004, 05:46 AM
jesu

and i bet you shine.....

jesupocaplypse
28th November 2004, 02:09 PM
one day maybe...