Evil And Grace

[Aristofanis]

Who can say what's good or bad? In order to develop ourselves I believe we should
develop every aspect of our character.This includes good and bad characteristics.for
example if someone has a talent in drawing should develop it.If the same person is
violent should develop this side of himself too.
I believe that truth should be above bad and good.Truth is the nature.And i believe
everyone should follow his nature call.
I'd like to read your opinions.

p.s.Sorry for my English



:huh:

[sonrisa]

sooooo..... if somebody develops his violent side & whups you upside the head..... then what?

[Aristofanis]

Originally posted by sonrisa@Aug 26 2004, 04:36 PM
sooooo..... if somebody develops his violent side & whups you upside the head..... then what?
If I am aviolent characteer i should react violently too.
If I am a peacefull character I should just try to avoid him.
In any case I can't judge him.
Ofcourse we all have our personal opinion, but noone can tell if it's the right one.

[a random hack]

Ofcourse we all have our personal opinion, but noone can tell if it's the right one.

if you're willing to live with the consequences, you can do what you like :D

[Aristofanis]

Originally posted by a random hack@Aug 26 2004, 06:46 PM
Ofcourse we all have our personal opinion, but noone can tell if it's the right one.

if you're willing to live with the consequences, you can do what you like :D
I agree.

[sahyo]

Sorry for my English



everyone should follow his nature call



In any case I can't judge him.



so is "Sorry" necessary? ;)

[rich]

Originally posted by Aristofanis@Aug 26 2004, 04:23 PM
Who can say what's good or bad? In order to develop ourselves I believe we should
develop every aspect of our character.This includes good and bad characteristics.for
example if someone has a talent in drawing should develop it.If the same person is
violent should develop this side of himself too.
* I believe that truth should be above bad and good.Truth is the nature.And i believe
everyone should follow his nature call.
I'd like to read your opinions.

p.s.Sorry for my English



* :huh:
Who can say what's good or bad?

IF I don't like what you are doing, I can still say it! If you do not listen to me, that is a different matter.

In order to develop ourselves I believe we should
develop every aspect of our character.This includes good and bad characteristics.for
example if someone has a talent in drawing should develop it.If the same person is
violent should develop this side of himself too.


IOW, if you knowingly are doing things to harm others, you should continue to do so, for it is developing yourself to become more harmful. Well now, isn't that just fine to be that way?
Maybe that is why there are prisons, to give some folks time to think over the things they may have done wrong by harming others.






I believe that truth should be above bad and good.Truth is the nature.And i believe
everyone should follow his nature call.
I'd like to read your opinions.

:hahaha: :ph34r: <---HIS NATURE CALLING !

[Aristofanis]

Originally posted by asheera@Aug 26 2004, 11:48 PM

Sorry for my English



everyone should follow his nature call



In any case I can't judge him.



so is "Sorry" necessary? ;)
no it's not!! :unsure:

[Aristofanis]

Developing your violent side doesn't mean you harm others just for fun.But in case you
are in a battle and someone trys to push you , you should be able to defend yourselve.
If you have a killer instict you should develop it.But this development shouldn't lead you
to kill someone.That's because you should have also developed other uspects of your characteer
which are also present in anyone.As a result of the developement we have a balanced characteer,
in which positive and negative live in harmony.
I believe tha gin and giang as a symbol shows a very interesting theory.Possitive and
negative have the same shapes.Positive has a liittle negative in it.Negative has a little positive also.
They have oposite colours and mirrored faces.Positive and negative by themselves make
false melodies.Together they make a melodic song.

[Aristofanis]

http://www.grafistas.gr/mitsoulis/gingiang.gif

Perhaps my words are confusing.I'm better with images (I think),this
is what I mean!

[sahyo]

wasn't confusing


http://www.zen-nature.org/zen-art/zen-pictures/3d-yin-yang.gif

[sahyo]

called mitsos designed image? :)

[sonrisa]

those designs are out the yin-yang

:D

[a random hack]

:lol: :thumbsup:

[sahyo]

those designs are out the yin-yang

seems?

:lol:

[sahyo]

oop :D

[Aristofanis]

Originally posted by asheera@Aug 29 2004, 11:52 AM
those designs are out the yin-yang

seems?

:lol:
maybe. I haven't studied yin and giang deeply .I just like yin and young
as a symbol.As far as visual communication is concered it's perfect.And
I believe (following my eyes and instict) that the message you get visualy
has relation with the theory.
I hope in future I'll be more educated on the subject.
:)

[sahyo]

those designs are out the yin-yang


sonrisa was joking Aristofanis
....is an expression which can read confusing if haven't heard it


I hope in future I'll be more educated on the subject.


may you not

:)

[Aristofanis]

Originally posted by asheera@Aug 30 2004, 08:22 PM

those designs are out the yin-yang


sonrisa was joking Aristofanis
....is an expression which can read confusing if haven't heard it


I hope in future I'll be more educated on the subject.


may you not

:)

no prob!!!

:)

[sahyo]

B)

[thirst4sun]

:rofl:

[sonrisa]

sî Aristofanis, I was joking. Sorry if I confused you. For what it's worth, your tag line is all greek to me!! :D (another expression, means one doesn't get it)

the real Aristofanis wrote comedy plays, did he not? :)

[Aristofanis]

Originally posted by sonrisa@Aug 31 2004, 08:53 AM
sî Aristofanis, I was joking. Sorry if I confused you. For what it's worth, your tag line is all greek to me!! :D (another expression, means one doesn't get it)

the real Aristofanis wrote comedy plays, did he not? :)
yes he did, His comedies are full dionisus and bad comments for Sokrates.
My tag is an aristofanis phrase in Greek.I can't translate it
in English, I need parental advisory to do it!!

B)

p.s.The fact that I have purple hair and sun glasses , doesn't mean I'm not
the real one.

B) :D

[sonrisa]

Aristofanis-- yes he did, His comedies are full dionisus and bad comments for Sokrates.
My tag is an aristofanis phrase in Greek.I can't translate it
in English, I need parental advisory to do it!!

-- I shall have to read some of his plays. I remember my English teachers (yeah, I know, English teachers teaching Greek lit, don't ask) saying that Aristofanis wrote comedies, but we never read any. Only the tradgeies- Oedipus Rex, Antigone, some Euripides, Helen, maybe. No wait, maybe that was Homer, except he didn't write any plays, did he? And maybe that was the history teacher- the history teachers assigned us historical books to read if the book had something to do with what they were teaching. At any rate, this was all some time ago so I'm scraping my memory banks here, but it left me with an appreciation of Greek Literature. I like Plato's Atlantis stories the best. :)



Aristofanis--p.s.The fact that I have purple hair and sun glasses , doesn't mean I'm not the real one.

B) :D


--oh really? Exactly how old are you then? your parents must be even older :D

[Aristofanis]

Originally posted by sonrisa@Sep 1 2004, 12:04 AM
Aristofanis-- yes he did, His comedies are full dionisus and bad comments for Sokrates.
My tag is an aristofanis phrase in Greek.I can't translate it
in English, I need parental advisory to do it!!

-- I shall have to read some of his plays. I remember my English teachers (yeah, I know, English teachers teaching Greek lit, don't ask) saying that Aristofanis wrote comedies, but we never read any. Only the tradgeies- Oedipus Rex, Antigone, some Euripides, Helen, maybe. No wait, maybe that was Homer, except he didn't write any plays, did he? And maybe that was the history teacher- the history teachers assigned us historical books to read if the book had something to do with what they were teaching. At any rate, this was all some time ago so I'm scraping my memory banks here, but it left me with an appreciation of Greek Literature. I like Plato's Atlantis stories the best. :)*



Aristofanis--p.s.The fact that I have purple hair and sun glasses , doesn't mean I'm not the real one.

B)* :D


--oh really? Exactly how old are you then? your parents must be even older :D
Bakhes ,Ploutos, ornithes are some really good plays .Unfortunately I don't know
their names in English, and trying to translate them may not help .

Oedipus rex for example isn't the word I would use, because rex means king.
In greek this tragedy's name is Oedipus Tiranus.
Rex and Tiranus are both leaders on their societys, but the political
structure of their enviroments is differen't.

As far as my age is concerned, Im just 23 (without counting my past lives).

:)

[sonrisa]

well Oedipus Rex is the name of that play in English. Actually Rex is Latin. Looks like something really did get lost in the translation of that particular play. Guess that's what happens when English teachers teach Greek Lit!!
:D

Let's see, Bakhes could be Bacchus & Ornithes could be Orestes, no wait, it's The Birds. Whose plays are you referring to, Euripides or Aristofanis?

so you're 23 in this life. Were you Aristofanis in a past life? Is that why you're using his name?
:)

[Aristofanis]

Originally posted by sonrisa@Sep 2 2004, 11:04 AM
well Oedipus Rex is the name of that play in English. Actually Rex is Latin. Looks like something really did get lost in the translation of that particular play. Guess that's what happens when English teachers teach Greek Lit!!
:D

Let's see, Bakhes could be Bacchus & Ornithes could be Orestes, no wait, it's The Birds. Whose plays are you referring to, Euripides or Aristofanis?

so you're 23 in this life. Were you Aristofanis in a past life? Is that why you're using his name?
:)
I refer to Aristofanis plays.

In my past live I think I was an Egyptian musician, I used to play
the oud for Kleopatra!!!!I'm not very sure about that though!!! :think:


I use this nickname because I love aristofanis as a personality.I believe
we have many things in common.He makes you lough, because
if you don't , you 'll burst into tears.His comedy is very close to tragedy
in my opinion.we mustn't forget thatDionisus is the inspiration
behind tragedy and comedy.Anyway the hole idea around aristofanis
is just very interesting to me!!
:)

[sonrisa]

aristofanis--In my past live I think I was an Egyptian musician, I used to play the oud for Kleopatra!!!!I'm not very sure about that though!!! :think:

--did you give her the snake too? :D



aristofanis--I use this nickname because I love aristofanis as a personality.I believe we have many things in common.He makes you lough, because if you don't , you 'll burst into tears.His comedy is very close to tragedy

-- & Euripides inserted comedy in his tragedies. I looked up Aristofanis in the search engine He did not care for Euripides much



aristofanis--in my opinion.we mustn't forget that Dionisus is the inspiration behind tragedy and comedy.

--I thought he was the drinking god



aristofanis--Anyway the hole idea around aristofanis is just very interesting to me!!
:)

-- :thumbsup: B)

[todd]

Tiran, actually in English it should be Tyran, means a leader of community (rather small)considered a state (like cities-states in the old Greece) which is equivalent with 'small' king.
This has nothing to do with tyranny in our today's meaning, that sounds more like extreme dictatorship.

[sonrisa]

thanx for explaining that Todd. I looked up tyrant, it comes from a Greek word for usurper, which Oedipus was, since he usurped his father's kingdom. But he wasn't a tyrant in the modern sense of the word, which would explain the play's English name, Oedipus Rex. Actually Oedipus was pretty messed up, boffing his Mom & all.

[Aristofanis]

I agree with both of you !!!


p.s. me and Kleo,(my little sphinx,as she liked me to call her) couldn't
develop a romance , because that creep Julious came between us.He
also had bigger car!!!!I drive a '92 Renault Clio, which is ancient!!These days
I had a Donkey called "Ieroklis"!!!

:D

[sonrisa]

Aristofanis-- me and Kleo,(my little sphinx,as she liked me to call her) couldn't develop a romance , because that creep Julious came between us

--what about Marc Antony? But at 23, I guess you're too young to remember Liz & Dick



aristofanis--I drive a '92 Renault Clio, which is ancient!!

-- so your car's named after her!



Aristofanis--I had a Donkey called "Ieroklis"!!

--Greek for Hercules? :D

[Aristofanis]

Originally posted by sonrisa@Sep 7 2004, 12:11 AM
Aristofanis-- me and Kleo,(my little sphinx,as she liked me to call her) couldn't develop a romance , because that creep Julious came between us

--what about Marc Antony? But at 23, I guess you're too young to remember Liz & Dick



aristofanis--I drive a '92 Renault Clio, which is ancient!!

-- so your car's named after her!



Aristofanis--I had a Donkey called "Ieroklis"!!

--Greek for Hercules? :D
1.Hercules and Ieroklis are different names.

2.Combining the facts I guess my car 's name is
a sign from the past.

3.As far as Marc Antony is concernend I have nothing to say.
I consider Ceasar ( a true leader) as my oponent.The tabloid
press of ancient Egypt used to carve many rumours on
the pyramids walls.These are fake rumours, I used to
send marc to bye me sigarettes!!!!


p.s.Dear Julious I hope I've put things into place!!!!historic
missunderstandings aren't your fault.Hail!!!!


:D

[a random hack]

3.As far as Marc Antony is concernend I have nothing to say.
I consider Ceasar ( a true leader) as my oponent.The tabloid
press of ancient Egypt used to carve many rumours on
the pyramids walls.These are fake rumours, I used to
send marc to bye me sigarettes!!!!


p.s.Dear Julious I hope I've put things into place!!!!historic
missunderstandings aren't your fault.Hail!!!!


so who's ceasar on this board? slayer? :o :lol:

[sonrisa]

he's the king of France, not Rome

France, or Gaul, just one small part of the Roman Empire....

:badgrin:

[a random hack]

he didn't say he was ONLY the king of france.....
so, logically....

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[muziclife3x3]

Will, I'm a 16 year old man, and believe good and evil have no definition, and that we should not say which is to be lived be. I also know that good and evil could no be without the other and that is the bigger picture. To live "right" learn to balance out both sides. Thanks for letting me speak my mind.