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vicente
23rd August 2004, 11:34 AM
Of all American scandals, like the John Quincy Adams aspirations of kingship, Tea Pot Dome, Watergate, or Plamegate, the darkest malefaction in American history may very well be the stealing of the 2004 Presidential election.

"...people are voting for Senator Kerry without knowing anything about him," said Howard Dean on Feb 5th. The underlying question is why wasn't John 'thrice wounded' Kerry VETTED before the Dem nomination?

Why did the DLC and the media assassinate Howard Dean and then give Kerry a free ride? Because they knew that Kerry was the least formable to go against Bush.

"Measure me by my life," John Kerry is fond of saying. John Edwards says: ask these men about John Kerry, pointing to the photo of mostly 'Swifties For Truth'.
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.ph...topic=SwiftVets (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php?topic=SwiftVets)

That's great that William Rood, a Swiftie who on February 28, 1969 says Kerry was heroic by shootong a wounded, near naked vietcong in the back,...I wonder what the motive was of Rood's "coming out" now, instead of responding to requests before "Unfit for Duty" and Tour of Duty were published.

So, that's one question solved,...now what about the 3 Purple Hearts, bronze star and the throwing of someone elses medals away? What about Kerry saying on April 23, 1971, in a statement to the US Senate, that ALL vets were criminals:

"I am not here as John Kerry. I am here as one member of the group of 1,000 which is a small representation of a very much larger group of veterans in this country, and were it possible for all of them to sit at this table they would be here and have the same kind of testimony....that they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country."

Later that spring, on Meet the Press, Kerry said "I committed the same kinds of atrocities as thousands of others, in that I shot in free-fire zones, fired .50-caliber machine bullets, used harass-and-interdiction fire, joined in search-and-destroy missions and burned villages."

Kerry's Purple Heart

"I was the commanding officer to whom John Kerry reported his injury on Dec 3, 1968. I had confirmed there was no hostle fire that night and that Kerry had simply wounded himself with an M-79 grenade round he had fired too close. Louis Letson, the base physician, saw Kerry and used tweezers to remove the tiny piece of shrapnel - about 1 centimeter in length and 2 millimeters in diameter. Letson also confirmed that the scratch was inflicted with our M-79. This is first hand knowledge, and our integrity is unquestioned.

Kerry orchestrated his way out of Vietnam, and then testified, under oath, before Congress that we, his comrades, had committed horrible war crimes. This testimony (like his self nominated Purple Heart) was a lie and slandered honorable men. We who were actually there, believe he is unfit to command our sons and daughters."

Grant Hibbard, retired commander US Navy
Louis Letson, MD, retired Lt Commander US Navy
USA Today, June 25, 2004

What's truely hideous from my perspective is why wasn't Kerry vetted last January, before the DLC assassinated Howard Dean, the one man who for certain could bet Bush.

America was dupped by the media and DLC into thinking Kerry could beat Bush. Kerry was born a phoney,...from Massachusettsians thinking he is an Irish Catholic when he is in fact a Czech Jew, to his appear on Jay Leno on a Harley, leading people to think he's a lifelong Harley guy.

Once again America has no choice,...its either George 'messenger of god' Bush, the self-described War President, or John 'Bush-lite' Kerry, the wannebe War President.

When will America want a Peace President?

Vicente

sonrisa
23rd August 2004, 04:12 PM
Vicente, a question- why would the bishop excommunicate a Jew?

vicente-- when will America want a Peace President?

--not to worry, Dennis' time will come :)

vicente
24th August 2004, 01:09 AM
Kerry is a Jew by genealogy/blood,...his Jewish grandmother became a Catholic for practice when her and her Czech Jew husband arrived in Massachusetts to "fit" in,...the "popular thing", which Kerry learned well. Personally I have nothing against Jews, although I strongly feel that Israeli's are terrorists.

As for a Peace President, I don't think Dennis Kucinich will ever elevate to President,...frankly, he's neither photogentic nor wealthy enough. Unforfortunately we live in a media World. Add that to the beliefs of the Abrahamic religions, ie., "wisdom of a poor man is despised and his words go unheeded" Eccles 9-16; and you see that only attractive, wealthy people are electable.

If you have any doubt of the easy media-tion of the American Sheeple, just check out last weeks poll which found that 54% of Americans still think Saddam had WMD's.

:)

sonrisa
26th August 2004, 04:15 PM
vicente--Kerry is a Jew by genealogy/blood,...his Jewish grandmother became a Catholic for practice when her and her Czech Jew husband arrived in Massachusetts to "fit" in,...the "popular thing", which Kerry learned well.

--Vicente, where are you getting your info? I typed "kerry jew" into the msn search engine & got linx to 2 white supremist hate sites, one of which had a link to that media ho Matt Drudge's site, but I didn't see a story there concerning Kerry being Jewish (maybe Drudge pulled it?) It's unlike you to not post linx to back up what you say.Please tell me you have not taken to surfing hate sites in order to find things to rant about ( you can find plenty of that stuff on http://www.whitehouse.gov )


vicente--I have nothing against Jews, although I strongly feel that Israeli's are terrorists.

--if that's the case, then why should it matter to you if Kerry is Jewish or not? Why should it matter, period? Same thing with repeating the Swift
Boat Vets for Chickenhawks lies- wasting time on all that nonsense takes away from the important issues at hand. You wonder why Rood is finally coming out with his story (maybe he didn't feel the need to until now?) Haven't you wondered why these Swift Boat Liars are denouncing their former comrade-in-arms & supporting a known chickenhawk? That is totally beyond me & shoots their credibility to zip as far as I'm concerned.
I'm not all that thrilled with Kerry myself, but as Presidents go, we could do worse (& are currently doing just that) If, as some reporters say, he is making his war record the cornerstone for his campaign, that is totally lame on his part. Like James Carville sez, it's the economy, stupid, & right now it ain't so hot. Oil's going thru the roof, & this week dubya messed with the paychex of millions of workers. Kerry sez he'll restore the stolen $-that should be the cornerstone of his campaign. He should be touting his alterative energy plan, & (considering almost 1/2 the people have no healthcare) his healthcare plan, neither of which are all that perfect, but once implemented, each can be improved upon.



vicente--As for a Peace President, I don't think Dennis Kucinich will ever elevate to President,...frankly, he's neither photogentic nor wealthy enough.

--have you ever seen him speak? Not heard- seen. I'll never forget the 1st time I saw Dennis speak- it was in a (packed, btw) theater down in Lexington & there were 2 other speakers- 3 counting the mayor of Lexington- & Dennis, of course, was last. So while the other speakers were warming up the crowd, I watched Dennis perched like some bird on the edge of his chair- really he looked like a gust of wind could come on in & blow him away- & I wondered could this really be the next Preident of the United States? (well obviously not this year!) Then it was Dennis' turn to speak. Now I had heard about people growing before your very eyes, but I never saw it for myself until that day. As he got into his speech he just grew, right there on the stage. Totally amazing. And he gave this totally awesome, inspiring speech... I don't know what the last part of it was about becuz by then the whole theater was up on our collective feet giving him ovation after ovation. Everytime he opened his mouth everybody started cheering & screaming like those girls used to do at those old Beatles concerts. This happened to be on Mar 15th of last year when there was a big demonstration going on in Washington & solidarity demos around the country, so after Dennis finished up at the theater, he went to the solidarity demo in the park down the street & got those folx all fired up. (we followed him down there.)
Dennis may not be very photogenic but he has his own special sort of charm :)
But you may be right about Dennis never becoming Prez, however I believe that sooner or later, if not Dennis, then somebody espousing his ideas will be elected President.


vicente--Unforfortunately we live in a media World. Add that to the beliefs of the Abrahamic religions, ie., "wisdom of a poor man is despised and his words go unheeded" Eccles 9-16; and you see that only attractive, wealthy people are electable.

--ain't that the truth
sux 2



vicente--If you have any doubt of the easy media-tion of the American Sheeple, just check out last weeks poll which found that 54% of Americans still think Saddam had WMD's.

--:shakehead: What wuz it PT Barnum said- one's born every minute?

a random hack
26th August 2004, 06:55 PM
What wuz it PT Barnum said- one's born every minute?

a sucker born every minute (http://www.historybuff.com/library/refbarnum.html)
interesting, no? didn't know this until you mentioned it <_< :D

or try...
alt :) (http://www.yaelf.com/aueFAQ/mifrssckrbrnvrymnt.shtml)

sonrisa
27th August 2004, 02:43 PM
I didn't know that either.

ok then, wut wuz it Hannum said- one's born every minute?

Barnum, Hannum, (shrug)

:)

a random hack
27th August 2004, 09:15 PM
:lol: