Gay-bashing Sucks

[WilliamMckeehan]

yes u can call me will thats no problem most people do but thanks for asking ya some times a really hate america :(

[Smurf]

yes anywhere humans go you can be sure that they will stuff it up :D :thumbsup:

[WilliamMckeehan]

yea lol some times i just want go leave this planet as well is there anymore room on that spaceship? :think: :D

[Smurf]

yeah i reckon i could fit a few people on there. including George Bush, why you ask? Because i want the pleasure of jettisoning him into space halfway there :D

[WilliamMckeehan]

:lol: i was thinking of joining u on your outer space adventure but being on this world with all the people on it ... its worth it as long as i have my love :( i always feel a little sadness when she is away

:thumbsup:

[Smurf]

yes it will be fun, well got to go, keep well mate. :thumbsup:

[WilliamMckeehan]

yes i must go too nice talking to you :thumbsup:

[scameter]

I hope it does smurf. To me, all those mother ****ers who make fun of someone for being who they are should be tortured severely, but being beat up is good enough. For now, until they go to jail and get raped a few times for about 20 years. :D

[MidnightSun]

:)

[scameter]

B)

[WilliamMckeehan]

:o :boxing: :thumbsup:

[Smurf]

I hope it does smurf. To me, all those mother ****ers who make fun of someone for being who they are should be tortured severely, but being beat up is good enough. For now, until they go to jail and get raped a few times for about 20 years. biggrin.gif

:lol: :lol: :lol:
yes exactly, bastards

[scameter]

:P :D

[Smurf]

:nono: ... :huh: ... :lol: :lol: :lol:

[scameter]

:P

[Smurf]

:rolleyes: :angry: <_< :( :ph34r:

[MidnightSun]

Well of those mutha ****ers, as u say scam only follows their instits which tells them to destroy and hit smaller scams like u :D Its not their fault, they are simply too dum.

[scameter]

Instincts wouldn't tell them that. Unfortunately, that takes thought and choice to do what they do, which is near-concrete evidence of their evil.

[MidnightSun]

Well there are insticts which harms, but i would say its coz of bad education. TV shows, cruel movies and so on..They couldnt resist the influence of that stuff and...

[scameter]

I resisted it.

[Smurf]

no Scam, instincts can take over a person, it is pretty bad when it happens, but it does. they enter a state of not realising anything, they can't see what they do, or think ahead, they just do stuff. which in a Human's sense of the word is "bad"

[MidnightSun]

Instincts makes you a beast. And a beast is selfish and can do anything to fulfill its needs. It harms others.

[scameter]

Oh? Then maybe what I have felt of instincts is different than what you've felt. Because to me, instintcs, in both humans and in other animals, takes away the good-bad creator(thought) and makes us act based on pure, nonaffiliated action, that is defined for the best efficieny. It has it's place, just as logic does. I was watching a whale show on PBS a couple days ago and it showed how this baby whale got stuck on the shore and couldn't get off. It then showed it's mother, and it didn't think about it, it didn't discuss it with the other whales, and it did it without fallacy; it merely went up to the whale, encouraged it to use it's tail and fins to push it's self, then when it got closer to the mother the mother pushed the baby to help it, then the baby used it's fins and tail harder to push it's self entirely off the beach. To me, that takes away all this beatiality and horrible lack of thought you two are talking about, or if what you say is true it only counts for humans, which's thought ability would influence it's instincts to create this effortless thought beastiality.

[Smurf]

oh but as you say that it creates a pure thinking, back to the cores of our brains no? this means they think without principles, which means they can be selfish, or caring as you say.

[scameter]

No. That's not what i said. I said that, because selfishness and a lack of caring and similar negative things exist from thought, and humans are predominantly thought-bound, when we use instincts our thought influences it to make it, if it even ever does or can, negative. But our instincts, as with all instincts, are good.

[Smurf]

this goes back heavily to the discussion on what is "good" and "bad" but i will not start that off again :D

instincts know no principles, that is what i am trying to say. a human who is not bound by instincts makes decisions based on their fundamental principles that are embedded in their brain. before the decision is made the information passes throught the filters created by these principles. that is what i am trying to say, a person ruled by instincts does not have these principles, he knows not how to make or abtain these, he/she only makes decisions based on the primevil mindset layed out for them in their brains. they do not create filters of what they believe they do not have beliefs. they just are. one would say the epitimy of Taoism? :)

[scameter]

But there are no embeded principles in humans. The only ones that are are the ones programmed into us in our childhood and on by society. Logic and the rest of the human mind, not including instincts, run on what the person wants to do, which is mainly emotional. People are an extremely emotional species. Instincts run on what is naturally logical, not what is influenced by human emotion, which does not only include compassion and happiness, but includes anger, fear, hate, murderability, and depressive self-destruction. But yes, instincts are at the empitemy of Taoism. No-thought, wu wei. :)

[Smurf]

yep, but when does an animal stop what it is doing and start realising in order to turn back into itself again? sort of understanding does not occur with instincts

[scameter]

I agree entirely, and that is why I made the addition to my "Triangle" on a topic in Science, because I do not think instincts exist. "Instincts" are merely the combination of pure logic (no emotion) and memory.

[Smurf]

hmm i think we should move this discussion to the science thread to make it easier, see you there

[scameter]

kk :)

[MidnightSun]

Scam is bi, smurf is bi ,psyche looks like bi as well...Am i only one straight here? Simply curious...

[scameter]

By bi I don't mean that I act half manly and half "girly". I mean that I am attracted to both sexes. Even though I do have both feminine and masculine characteristics, don't mistake that for saying I'm manly or "girly".

And, I think that it is the tantra of acceptence that people ALWAYS deny and are almost unable entirely to perform.

[Smurf]

tell me do you guys have private schools where you are?

[WilliamMckeehan]

well im straight :D and i have a pretty ****ing hot girl friend too :thumbsup:


sorry for the langauge i normaly NEVER cuss

[MidnightSun]

yea that definitely made me feel better... (sarcasm) :D

[scameter]

lol I cuss all the time, just not on here. :) But, yes we do smurf. It's just that most of them are dogmatic, hypocritical Christian schools, or schools that claim to be Christian.

[deepakgang]

Ms, Will, psyche im straight too. Ive a gf but havent started physical exploration yet as im also like psyche :thumbsup:

[Smurf]

yeah if there is a purpose to my life, i think it is to one make loud silence and two abolish private schooling :D

[scameter]

:P

[Smurf]

you know the main reason for gay-bashing? Fear

[scameter]

As is the apparent reason for everything humans are involved in: Fear.

[WilliamMckeehan]

i go to the crappyest public school i have ever seen ... one of my teachers quit and omg we still dont have a new one its been chaos in that class :blink:

[scameter]

What state are you in?

[Smurf]

so no teacher?

[WilliamMckeehan]

i live in New Mexico


well theres a sub for the class but he is having a hard time i get very confused because i never know what were doing it that class ... i liked the old teacher she really tryed hard :duh:

sorry for the late reply

[scameter]

I'm just glad you posted my friend. I like reading your posts. :)

[Smurf]

heh sounds funny will :thumbsup:

[WilliamMckeehan]

yea :lol:

im not a big fan of New Mexico or the people i should say the desert can be a beautiful place but some of the people who live here can be very mean
theres LOTs of crime :( i have almost been robbed twice and i live on some dead end road no one really notices the only big city in NM is filled with crime one of my friends lives there he hates it i do too a lot of gansters and things ... they can be rather racist to people who arnt there type but oh well normaly if just keep ur mouth shut and ignore people everything is fine but just dont walk around at night in the city i use to with my brother we never got mugged or i havnt atleast my brother has once ... but drunk teenagers like to throw bottles at u :blink: its crazy people should just learn to calm down ... but there are good people here to :) i have met some nice people too

its not the worst place in the world

[Smurf]

shit, actually myself i have not been a victim of crime, we don't have it much here in Aussie.

[scameter]

Atlanta, Georgia, is one of the most crime-infested areas of both the country and the world, which is why I try to avoid it. Oddly, most of the people here aren't intelligent enough to be crimeful, which should tell you something. :D

[WilliamMckeehan]

oh yes atlanta :o


georgia ... i have heard of that play ... a special friend of my visited her aunt out there or atleast i think it was her aunt but it sounds pretty cool a lot more amazing then New Mexico but the USA is just crime infested ... i wish i lived in another country aussie or england france ... i dont care were i just think i would feel better if i was out of here

[Smurf]

Yay come to Australia! it's cool over here. actually i think that Tasmania, the island state in the south of the country (My state yeah woo :D ) would be a lot like the eastern USA, same climate i think?

but Australia is so cool! except for the retards in charge. but hey i suppose it is like any other country's politicians?

[WilliamMckeehan]

i wouldnt mind going ... but i cant leave everyone i know is here :lol:

[Smurf]

oh there's always that yes ...
but you know me here? :D

[WilliamMckeehan]

how much i would want to ditch america completely i cant i have people here that will need me i will put there happyness before mine in the long run that will make me happy too :thumbsup:

[Smurf]

absolutely :thumbsup:

[scameter]

I want nothing more than to go to Europe, especially Britain. And even more especially, Scotlant. I've always wanted to. :)

[Smurf]

Let me tell you Scam Europe is the BEST!

They are so much more mature than America in so many ways! the drinking age is 16 average so they have intergrated drinking into their cultures. so not much binge drinking, or psychos than America. But you don't see any of this Suing bullshit in the courts, they just say "Hey it's you fault, deal with it" How Awesome?!

It's the best you'll love it, oh and so much history too! :thumbsup:

[WilliamMckeehan]

i want to go to europe too

[Smurf]

definately, Well my friend i must go for the night, goddamn dial-up! :angry:
see you later mate :thumbsup:

[WilliamMckeehan]

yes i should go too night :thumbsup:

[MidnightSun]

Im in europe :D

[Venus]

That's a good idea! Try it!
To others: Visit Britain! Never live in it! It is becoming a third-world country. (In my biased view) And I'm emmigrating to France as soon as a I can...
But please don't take my word for it, I'm just moaning. There is still a lot there. It is has just past is full useage and potential for me. Scotland and Wales are lovely places- I highly recommend them... And Europe is the best! I agree...

Oh, how many people here live in England/Britain/Wales?

[MidnightSun]

Nope, east europe, Lithuania.

[Venus]

If no-one British is a member here, than my own little view on Britain is proven...lol...
Midnightsun is English your first langauge?

[scameter]

Unfortunately, Georgia, America for me. And, yes that does sound awesome smurf :) And, honestly I wouldn't be going for their societal markers; I would be going for their maturity, their history, their natural wonders, and their distinct culture. :)

[Venus]

Yeah, I suppose it is. I just feel that in Britain I'm: :wallbash:

[Smurf]

Im in europe

yeah i know lucky bastard :thumbsup: :D

and definately Scam, the maturity! ahh

I'm from Tassie! best place in the universe! :D
and why do you think Britain is turning 3rd world my friend?

[scameter]

I would like to go to Edinburough (possible mispell) University myself. It's actually an old castle-like structure. It's very beautiful, from pictures I've seen of it. :) It even has it's own entire music history section psyche. :)

[Venus]

In answer to Smurf: I've lived here all my life. I must say I don't live in England any more. Wales is a better. I just find the services very poor- there is not much of a community any more- In my view that is. Otherwise I recommend it. It is a beautiful place with a beautiful history.
Britain has really past it's prime for me though.... It is just a passive complaint...
I loved it in London!

[scameter]

:) No problem psyche, you should check out the website for it. It's really cool. :)

And I see what you mean venus; honestly, I think you see it as you do because it is becoming more and more like America, which is entirely lacking of much history except 200 years ago and's only culture is that of money-gain. England/Britain on the other hand, has an extremely rich and diverse culture and history and landscape, which the latter America seems determined of it's own land to destroy, sickeningly. Thankfully, the Western area of America still retains much of it's wildess, but I wouldn't count on it being so beautiful as it is now forever, unfortunately. Have you ever been to Scotland Venus? :)

[Venus]

Yes, sort of. I visited Aberdeen. I was shocked when I visited there by the friendliness! I would like to live there. It is a very warm, open, funny, polite, open-minded community. I only stayed there for a week and I felt like I lived there already. I wasn't at all willing to depart... lol...
Scotland is beautiful, uncorrupted place. Make Scotland a place to visit...
Yes you are right Scameter. If I'm honest, I find a lot of people that I meet are shallow and vain... that might not be true however...

[scameter]

No I think it is, which is the cause of the carrying-over of American cynicism and shallowness. But, you suck! Now I can't wait to live in Scotland! :D

[Venus]

Lol... sorry. But that was just about Aberdeen and the Shetland islands...

[scameter]

:P I know. :D

[Smurf]

Thanks Venus! yes but i sort of cut off Britaion from Europe when i talk about it, it just doesn't fit you know?

[Venus]

Why are you thanking me?
I agree...
We (as in the danmed "democratic" government) won't even accept the Euro because "It's too much trouble..." Yeah right. They (as in the current party) just don't want to be knocked off their little financial mountian. That's one thing that separates us.

Britain just belongs to Europe for the safety. Come on- even Ireland has Euros- we British people are pains. Lol...
I suppose we are repaying our debt for the attrocities commited...

[scameter]

I think that all citizens of a country dislike their country lol Except the buisnessmen of America :D

[sonrisa]

not me Scam- I like my country. It's the damn bushits I can't stand. They're sending us to hell in a handbasket :angry:

[scameter]

:P

[sonrisa]

not funny Scam :angry:

[scameter]

Darn. I find it very funny :D

[Smurf]

Sonrisa:

One thing that separates us from them is the power to see, we can see ourselves from the outside and sometimes laugh. the power of laughter is great my friend! they do not have this joviality which is what makes them the people they are, they do not have the power to look or feel beyond themselves. it is sad. but we must keep laughing at them and the happiness that they do not posess. so keep smiling mate! :thumbsup:

And Venus i am thankiing you for answering my question! I do it a lot here. don't forget pleases and thankyous!

actually that sounded pretty gay huh? :D
"Except the buisnessmen of America biggrin.gif"
"But, you suck! Now I can't wait to live in Scotland! biggrin.gif"
:lol: :lol: Scam you make me laugh a lot, something i thought i had lost with all this american comedy bullshit coming over here. thanks mate :thumbsup:

[Venus]

Why Psyche?
:) Thank you Smurf. :) the power of laughter is great my friend!
To me, it is the way to enlightenment.


But, you suck! Now I can't wait to live in Scotland! biggrin.gif"
Scam you make me laugh a lot, something i thought i had lost with all this american comedy bullshit coming over here. thanks mate
Lol...
I was considering moving to Scotland... butnow my heart belongs to France...

[Venus]

The reason why I resent certain aspect of my native country is because we're ruled by uneducated, working-class communtists...

[scameter]

lol Thanks smurf, I do try! America is known for it's love of laughter, even if alot of it is the laughter of buisnessmen after running their buisness opponent into the ground! :D

[Venus]

I'm waiting for the next election- yet by then I should be in France! Lol...

[Smurf]

To me, it is the way to enlightenment.

certainly!!! :)

the Dalai Lama once said that laughter is good as it helps the brain to let in new ideas, cool hey? :thumbsup:

yay another president! hopefully not crap, but anything's as good as Bushie! :D

lol Thanks smurf, I do try! America is known for it's love of laughter, even if alot of it is the laughter of buisnessmen after running their buisness opponent into the ground! biggrin.gif

unfortunately yep :(


The reason why I resent certain aspect of my native country is because we're ruled by uneducated, working-class communtists...
is your native country England Venus? :think:

I have another Idea: in one of my other forums we have a thread called: "Everytime you come here you have to make a post" it is very good.

[Venus]

Lol! What an amusing post.
Laughing lowers/stablilises blood sugar levels, preventing Diabetes.
Ever heard of laughter yoga Smurf?

No, I live in Wales- a litle temporary sancutrary(Lol!) From the communist England.
The reason why I call them that is because they basicaly are communists. And they follow the communist thoery.

They abolished Grammar schools- they wanted children to be equal- that's an example.

Lol...

[Smurf]

Ever heard of laughter yoga Smurf?

:lol: yes it is cool! :thumbsup:


No, I live in Wales- a litle temporary sancutrary(Lol!) From the communist England.
well that's a first, haha communist England! :D hmm yes i agree.

but here in Aussie we just hang out and relax mainly, with the big guys doing their stuff we don't really care much for politics. basically having a good time! :thumbsup:

Grammar schools
were grammar schools privately run? as in outside of the government?

[Proteus]

New Zealand....looks damned beautiful and never been on that side of the world.

[Smurf]

Yes it is! So very beautiful, I suppose you have seen the LOTR series :P basically all that is New Zealand. Well I mean not all of New Zealand of course.

Might I ask where you come from?

Btw Welcome to thebigview.com :thumbsup:

[Proteus]

yeah, I've seen LOTR...have the box set with the 18 hours of the making of the movie...awesome
I'm from south Georgia, USA

[scameter]

Wow, I'm from north Georgia my friend and also have the three LotR extended editions, I would love to see the actuality of the film of New Zealand taken in the movies as well. Welcome. :)

[Smurf]

Yes it is very beautiful, there is sooooooo much land but hardly any people! on both places, Australia and New Zealand. Actually I think the number of sheep in New Zealand surpasses the human population. and in Aus we have a pop density of about ... 2 per sq kilometre!

[scameter]

Wow, sounds like paradise, uninhibited by the contemporary destructive, imperialistic hands of society. :)

[scameter]

Yes, that they do. Such as the Aussie we have here with us, the Magnificient Smurf! :P

[Smurf]

the Magnificient Smurf

http://www.foreverbanana.com/smiley/blush.gif aww jeez guys



Yes Australia is awesome! so cool, crap politicians, but hey like everywhere else no? :D
yeah we're pretty laid back ere, fair go and all that :)

[scameter]

:P

[Smurf]

I am wondering what Georgia is like? the flora etc... I love the Australian bush, i suppose you naturally love the place you grew up in? :P

[scameter]

lol Then you suppose wrong. Georgia, for what natural scenery it has left, mainly consists of pine trees in the central, plains below where the ancient sea used to be, blue-hued mountains covered in forest in the far north, and coastal islands to the far south coast. I like the place, if it were actually a natural place anymore. Now, it's becoming more and more developed, erradicating the original natural beauty of the place once very much so existing during the time of the Native Americans.

[Proteus]

You can still find beautiful scenery in Georgia..yet as scameter has pointed out it is, due to increased population and industry the forests are giving way to people and down here in south Georgia pine trees arethe new cash crop. It's hard to find any old growth forests at all.

We had some neighbors move down from up north once during pine pollen season. The wife of the elderly couple came over to accuse my brother and me of vandalizing their house and vehicles. Funny...the water puddles turn yellow..cars and houses all get drenched in yellow pollen.

[sonrisa]

Hey, u guyz forgot about that GA clay! :D I'll never forget my 1st trip to GA & seeing all that clay everywhere :)

what part of South GA are you from Proteus? Every Nov my friends & I go to Columbus to do SOA & this last time we walked along the Chattahootchie. It was so pretty & peaceful down there, like stepping into another planet. I really enjoyed my walk there.

[Smurf]

lol Then you suppose wrong. Georgia, for what natural scenery it has left, mainly consists of pine trees in the central, plains below where the ancient sea used to be, blue-hued mountains covered in forest in the far north, and coastal islands to the far south coast. I like the place, if it were actually a natural place anymore. Now, it's becoming more and more developed, erradicating the original natural beauty of the place once very much so existing during the time of the Native Americans.

That is very sad, I wish there was a place, where we could go. A place that is our imagination to reality. :(

[Smurf]

Hmmm, you do know what has been happening in Bali at the moment?

[scameter]

"Only in their dreams can men be truly free; twas always thus, and always thus shall be." :)

[Smurf]

ahh who was that again?


that's right Keating!

but please tell me if you knew what happened in Bali? news etc ...

[sonrisa]

ok Smurfie, I'll bite. What's happening in Bali at the moment/

[Smurf]

well did you hear about the Bali Bombings?

also The huge amount of Australians smuggling Drugs into Indonesia that have been caught. I think about hmmm ... 11 people altogether?

And another Australian person was caught doing the said offence into Singapore and put to death. You know why he was doing it? to help his brother's debts. Now I know that that still isn't a Moral reason to smuggle in Drugs, but they put him to death. something that got a lot of Aussies upset

[Smurf]

ohh did nobody hear that? :(