What The Freak!

[fu*]

Still FU (fed up)

There is not one topic description that would describe what I am am looking for, so this one will have to do.

What the freak is going on???????????????
Does anyone know?

Am I sweat? .....body?....something?.....point of concience?.....ness?....

How apropriate, this ant that is crawling across my computer screen. Do you think he/she gives a crap about what we have to say/write/ think? He/she just seems to crawl. Does he/she matter?

No way to describe the complete and utter ridiculesness of 'life'. No way to even ask a question. different frequency. Senses detect...something...nothing...............order.. .....only thought. Phylosophy....still order.....and even worse.... some'one' elses. Does any'one' seeeeeeeeeeeee redicules? <-for the order freaks, spelling might not be right

Every'one' seems to have things figured. Are you kind to your'self'?
Why??? Do you avoid foods that are bad for you? do you refrain from smoking? do you use your willpower to be good/healthy?

So life might be misserable that way, but at least it will last a long time...................Crazzzzzzy aint it?

When life is best......guess which way it is going from there...... thats right..... downhill. what a thing to look forward to. Dont get upset though, cause when you get to the bottom, things can only get better. What a load of crap!

So who knows what is going on?............Anyone?

If there was a thread here that called for crazy thought, I would post in that. But allas..... no 'one' would understand.

On a lighter note, I saw a great bumper sticker the other day.

It was....
Please help me be the person my dog thinks I am.

I am fed up with order....with phylosophy....with science...with numbers and words....with *******s and "nice" people...with money and no money.....with the bullshit that is you.(for you paronoid people, yes that means you)

FU

[rich]

Interesting post fu.

Guess many of us get fu at times. I wonder if when this heart stops beating, if I will still be fu, or if being fu will cease to exist, when the spark of this life is gone?

Does one have to learn here and now, how to stop being fu, before one can advance to a higher plateau?

Is life like a quiz show contest? :unsure: :o <_<

[sahyo]

Still FU (fed up)

:D wheeeeeeesputz

There is not one topic description that would describe what I am am looking for, so this one will have to do.

cannot topic loving

What the freak is going on???????????????
Does anyone know?

chiniptzha

Am I sweat? .....body?....something?.....point of concience?.....ness?....

pointlessing frazinsnap


How apropriate, this ant that is crawling across my computer screen. Do you think he/she gives a crap about what we have to say/write/ think? He/she just seems to crawl. Does he/she matter?

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No way to describe the complete and utter ridiculesness of 'life'. No way to even ask a question. different frequency. Senses detect...something...nothing...............order.. .....only thought. Phylosophy....still order.....and even worse.... some'one' elses. Does any'one' seeeeeeeeeeeee redicules? <-for the order freaks, spelling might not be right

yep phylosophy redicules :D

Every'one' seems to have things figured. Are you kind to your'self'?
Why??? Do you avoid foods that are bad for you? do you refrain from smoking? do you use your willpower to be good/healthy?

yummmmpizzablueberriesnachoswatermeloning

So life might be misserable that way, but at least it will last a long time...................Crazzzzzzy aint it?

flibberrrrrrrrrrarbbbbbingarlinshang

When life is best......guess which way it is going from there...... thats right..... downhill. what a thing to look forward to. Dont get upset though, cause when you get to the bottom, things can only get better. What a load of crap!

downhill? forward? bottom?..........um

So who knows what is going on?............Anyone?

humptydumpty

If there was a thread here that called for crazy thought, I would post in that. But allas..... no 'one' would understand.

haha

On a lighter note, I saw a great bumper sticker the other day.

It was....
Please help me be the person my dog thinks I am.

ohoh

I am fed up with order....with phylosophy....with science...with numbers and words....with *******s and "nice" people...with money and no money.....with the bullshit that is you.(for you paronoid people, yes that means you)

kiss
eglanaga
lagelaglena

FU

phz

:D

[...]

I am fed up with order....

That's great. Any order you've found is just another beliefstructure, even meaning is meaningless FU, and as such it's impossible to derive any satisfaction from it. When the framework of (p)reference FU is cannot sustain itself any longer through beliefs, because the realisation dawns that FU is a belief, you drop everything you think you (can) own, and continue living empty handed...

[Polaris]

Still FU (fed up)

<snip ensuing tirade>

I think that if you were REALLY fed up you wouldn't have bothered to post. :)

[DavidS]

Hi FU -

What the freak is going on???????????????
Does anyone know?
I don't know if what follows (from some writing I did elsewhere a while back) qualifies as 'knowledge', philosophical or psychological. Many of the ideas in it derive from other sources. I don't know if you will find anything in it pertinent, but it 'fits' as a template for my personal observations and experience (the latter in spades!)

Sincerely, David
==========
. . . sooner or later, particularly after repeated or lengthy trial and tribulation, when their strength is depleted, beleaguered individuals experience a state of psycho-spiritual 'bankruptcy', in which the hope of attaining idealization-fantasy fulfillment dies, and they starkly see that even seeking to compensate themselves for such unfulfillment by means of substitute desire-gratification dooms them to endless effort, if not utter frustration and futility.

They enter a phase, poetically alluded to as 'the dark night of the soul', characterized initially by feelings of upset and anger, then despair, followed by sadness, depression and, ultimately, resignation, in which yearning and striving for what they desire, because satisfaction continually eludes them, finally cease. Sense of purpose is lost. What they do or don't do then matters little to them, if at all. Life seems a cruel joke, if not meaningless. The process continues, generally in waves and spurts, till they fully accept the fact that they cannot have things be the way them want them to be (or not be the way they want them not to be). In the end, truly humbled, they reach the point where they stop being egocentrically willful and demanding, whatever their personal predilection and preference may have been or yet be.

Then, because no longer preoccupied with dreams of idealization-fantasy fulfillment and schemes aimed at attaining the same, they begin to be open to truly savoring and appreciating actualities and possibilities that are inherent in, and so embrace and act to creatively enhance, their and others present condition and circumstance, whatever this happens to be. As a result of becoming disillusioned regarding the possibility of actualizing and enjoying what, because of comparison-based sensation and logic, they previously men-tally and emotionally fixated on as 'ideal', by default as it were, without specifically intending to, they organically rediscover and reexperience the beauty and bounteousness of Life as is.

In due course, such rediscovery and reexperience sparks a conversion in one's outlook and mode of operation. Because one then experientially knows disappointment and dissatisfaction to be idealization-associated blights, one be-comes more wary of and less likely to be lured by fantasy-based temptations and, if and when one gets 'snared' by them, more quickly frees oneself from such entanglement by re-establishing wholesome relationship with what is in truth. Gradually, more and more often, and each time more fully, recognizing the bounteousness of experience and ongoing opportunity for discovery, development and joyful expression afforded by Life as It is to be a phenomenal boon, one proceeds with an attitude of greater and greater appreciation and consequently love. As the quest for 'more' desire-satisfaction then becomes superfluous, one increasingly enjoys and, so, more and more 'naturally' acts to enhance developments in Life's garden, whatever one's situation and whoever one may be with. Such progression 'naturally' culminates in one's actualizing totally positive modality and flourishing in complete psychospiritual communion with Life processes one is part and parcel of, as all one's giving and receiving becomes geared to this.

[rich]

So, FU, what is your problem? :unsure:
I don't understand. :blink:

[sahyo]

Originally posted by DavidS@Jul 19 2003, 08:34 AM

Then, because no longer preoccupied with dreams of idealization-fantasy fulfillment and schemes aimed at attaining the same, they begin to be open to truly savoring and appreciating actualities and possibilities that are inherent in, and so embrace and act to creatively enhance, their and others present condition and circumstance, whatever this happens to be. As a result of becoming disillusioned regarding the possibility of actualizing and enjoying what, because of comparison-based sensation and logic, they previously men-tally and emotionally fixated on as 'ideal', by default as it were, without specifically intending to, they organically rediscover and reexperience the beauty and bounteousness of Life as is.

In due course, such rediscovery and reexperience sparks a conversion in one's outlook and mode of operation. Because one then experientially knows disappointment and dissatisfaction to be idealization-associated blights, one be-comes more wary of and less likely to be lured by fantasy-based temptations and, if and when one gets 'snared' by them, more quickly frees oneself from such entanglement by re-establishing wholesome relationship with what is in truth. Gradually, more and more often, and each time more fully, recognizing the bounteousness of experience and ongoing opportunity for discovery, development and joyful expression afforded by Life as It is to be a phenomenal boon, one proceeds with an attitude of greater and greater appreciation and consequently love. As the quest for 'more' desire-satisfaction then becomes superfluous, one increasingly enjoys and, so, more and more 'naturally' acts to enhance developments in Life's garden, whatever one's situation and whoever one may be with. Such progression 'naturally' culminates in one's actualizing totally positive modality and flourishing in complete psychospiritual communion with Life processes one is part and parcel of, as all one's giving and receiving becomes geared to this.


no

[sahyo]

There is not one topic description that would describe what I am am looking for, so this one will have to do.

cannot topic loving



topic descriptions not

[rich]

time for me to leave this discussion. :ph34r:

--------------------
Rich

[DavidS]

Hi asheera -

Originally posted by asheera@Jul 19 2003, 01:55 PM
no

No not. :lol:

Only Yes is. My yes not your yes, I take it. What your yes be?

[sahyo]

hidavid

'yesno', not :D

but......
but use wording, which not, "no-t" for pointing
'thinkingseparatedelusionwhichnot'

[a random hack]

damnit, 'm still stuck on thinking 'nothinking'... :P

:)

[fu*]

only nonsense to post
seeing nonsense gathered to concepts, sooo believed
phsxvapt
wish could describe seeing silly
you's sooo believing
my head has betrayed/is betraying me.
you's seeing right and wrong
me seeing silly, but still a me
dont know what to expect
so nothing will do
if death would stop the "head"....would die
afraid the "head" may follow
so just seeing silly till silly runs out
no "anger"... "dissatisfaction"... "hoping for better"
just wonder

All the kings horses and all the kings men couldn't put humpty together again

[sahyo]

damnit, 'm still stuck on thinking 'nothinking'... :P

hehe :P :D

[rich]

"Cheer up ,
Fed Up",
A little birdie
whispered
in my ear,
I heard
in his,
"CHIRP" :D ;)

[sahyo]

wonder

:D no rightwrong phsxvapt wonder fu*

All the kings horses and all the kings men couldn't put humpty together again

yeyyyyy

[rich]

fu and asheera,

Please translate, phsxvapt.

Thank you, :)

[...]

Welcome...

[Polaris]

only nonsense to post
seeing nonsense gathered to concepts, sooo believed
phsxvapt
wish could describe seeing silly
you's sooo believing
my head has betrayed/is betraying me.
you's seeing right and wrong
me seeing silly, but still a me
dont know what to expect
so nothing will do
if death would stop the "head"....would die
afraid the "head" may follow
so just seeing silly till silly runs out
no "anger"... "dissatisfaction"... "hoping for better"
just wonder

All the kings horses and all the kings men couldn't put humpty together again

By seeing things as "silly" you've automatically created the perception of things that are "not silly". If you're hung up on the "silliness" of it all why don't you switch gears and try to see the "not silliness" of it all instead. One will give meaning to the other and soon you'll find that nothing is silly/not silly. :)

[sahyo]

polaris

people thinkingseparate,
which not,
is funnysilly
:P :D ;)

[rich]

people thinkingseparate,
which not,
is funnysilly


what do you mean by your words?
Is asheera thinking separate?
Is asheera thinking together?
Is asheera thinking?
Isn't asheera not thinking?
Is asheera not thinking?

2nd request: Please translate, phsxvapt.
:rolleyes: ;) :lol: :blink:

[Polaris]

Originally posted by asheera@Jul 21 2003, 09:18 AM
polaris

people thinkingseparate,
which not,
is funnysilly
:P :D ;)
But if thinkingseparate, which not, is funnysilly then thinking-notseparate, which is, is not funnysilly.
:blink: ;)

Rich:Is asheera thinking separate?

Yes :) :o

[rich]

Polaris posted:

Rich:QUOTE
Is asheera thinking separate?


Yes

Polaris,

Rich predicts that asheera'a answer to your, Yes, will be a resounding, No!

Of course, since I already posted her answer, it would be a matter of her choosing, between Polaris and Rich, whom she wants to shower her obstinacy upon. :lol: :D :P

[Polaris]

Originally posted by rich@Jul 21 2003, 02:42 PM

Polaris,

Rich predicts that asheera'a answer to your, Yes, will be a resounding, No!

Of course, since I already posted her answer, it would be a matter of her choosing, between Polaris and Rich, whom she wants to shower her obstinacy upon. :lol: :D :P
:D :lol:

I think you're right Rich. :)

One of these times I'm going to get it right though. No guts, no glory
(not-noguts, not-noglory, not which.. of course) ;)

[rich]

Polaris,

Otherwise known as, word massaging. ;)

[rich]

A Pearl of Wisdom:

They who simultaneously
agree and not agree,
separate and gather,
think and not think
attach and detach,
not synonym, not antonym,
shall know, not gnow
both, not two
sides of story,
no story,
story not,
tell,
NO!

[Polaris]

:D Rich, did you write that ? Very wisdomy. :)

[sahyo]

But if thinkingseparate, which not, is funnysilly then thinking-notseparate, which is, is not funnysilly.




not like youthinking polaris :D

[Polaris]

not like youthinking polaris :D

:D not like me thinking

or

not thinking like me ?

:D ;)

[sahyo]

not like'which' thinking'you'thinking posted ;) :D

[Polaris]

not like'which' thinking'you'thinking posted

Of course!! Now why didn't I think of that?! :lol: ;)

[sonrisa]

Originally posted by fu*@Jul 19 2003, 09:07 AM
Still FU (fed up)


Oh is THAT what it's for?!? :rolleyes:

I thought it was um, something you.
Oops! Nevermind! :blink:

[sahyo]

Of course!! Now why didn't I think of that?! :lol: ;)

:o ahohohhehe
polaris thinking-trying-clevering response ;) :lol:

[DavidS]

Originally posted by fu*@Jul 20 2003, 07:24 PM
no "anger"... "dissatisfaction"... "hoping for better"
just wonder
An Alice in Wonderland kind o' experience, maybe?

All the kings horses and all the kings men couldn't put humpty together again
Nothing quite beats 'oceanic' wave-traveling, IMO. Gotta be real 'flexible' and 'elastic' for that -- humpty on his way to flow-process-identity, dumpty-identity no more 'togethering'.

Maybe ... just also enjoyably wondering :)

[sahyo]

coundn't "together" humptydumpty....
no humpty"idenity"dumpty
....yeyyyyy :D

[Polaris]

ahohohhehe
polaris thinking-trying-clevering response

;) "Do or do not. There is no try." ~ Yoda :)

[sahyo]

yes no try,
but people still try
....also no clevering

hehe

;)

[Polaris]

D'oh!! :o

;) :)

[rich]

no responsee,
no tryee,
so whatee? :unsure:
So longee,
Good-Bye-ee! :ph34r:

[todd]

I think I understand FU* frustration, browsing through previous topics.
I said understand, not share. I spent some time among "erudites" and I noticed their tendency to avoid sinking in a topic and arguing, but trying to find previous published opinions, always citing known philosophers, to show everyone else they read a lot, and bring their own contribution only "between words". It is a way of staying "cool", and acting wise, getting respect. In this present world it's the only way to realize something.
FU* was looking for a hot topic, for a fight of ideas and thoughts, for fun and he found instead a sort of library, people using terms he never heard before. But he freaked out and got mad on everyone, instead of cooling down, start listening and trying to understand.
In a way he was right. The great philosophers didn't exclusively talk about their predecessors theories, but threw themselves in flames struggling to find reasonable answers.
I like DavidS comments also. I think the evolution described is accurate, but I find it natural, and I think we should appreciate individual struggle for knowledge, for truth and for inner peace. I agree with Machiavelli in this case - the end justify the means.
In my life experience I realized that there is something interesting that I can learn in absolutely everybody, regardless of the level of education or social position.
I was astonished to find profound wisdom in people that never went to school or never read a book in their lives. You just need to know how to listen and make them open their hearts.
Recently I started thinking that we all have the same intellectual capacity - like similar computers - and the difference is only about areas of interest that created different abilities - like various software, running Solitaire or SQL server. The paradox is that the more sophisticated the software is, the lower the speed.
For example, I'm pretty good in exact sciences, my IQ is around 140 but sometimes I'm boring, and I know some people with 110 IQ that are always funny, spontaneous sound spiritual and are almost always an agreeable presence. Being funny and spontaneous is something special that does not seems to require knowledge and replaces intelligence.

[beesting42]

Well FU, you seem to be doing well.

[thirst4sun]

Still FU (fed up)
[QUOTE]Every'one' seems to have things figured. Are you kind to your'self'?
Why??? Do you avoid foods that are bad for you? do you refrain from smoking? do you use your willpower to be good/healthy?

Well I hope you are not this miserable all of the time :angry: . I know some people who are constantly crying :cry: and complaining :moody: and when I am around these people I feel just as miserable as them :twoguns: If you send negitive energy then the people around you will also be affected and that isn't fun for everyone. As your comments about using will power to stay healthy. Staying healthy is a positive thing that can make you feel good about yourself. I personally feel good about myself. I don't always avoid foods that shouldn't eat but I do take care of myself. Well hopefully one day you'll become a happier person and see some positive things in the life you have now :dancing: ..........Good Luck and Cheer up

[fu*]

Todd
>>>FU* was looking for a hot topic, for a fight of ideas and thoughts,<<<

Looking for a fight of "ideas" and "thoughts"??? No. I would rather have a war with plastic army men. It would be just as real. And just as pointless.

>>>But he freaked out and got mad on everyone<<<

Your perception is skewed. So is mine.

>>>start listening and trying to understand.<<<

I do my best listening when I am not trying to understand.

"This is the nature of the unenlightened mind: The sense organs, which are very limited in scope and ability, randomly gather information. The impartial information is arranged into judgments, which are based on the previous judgments, which are usually based on someone else's foolish ideas. These false concepts are then stored in a highly selective memory system. Distortion upon distortion...the more one uses the mind, the more confused one becomes."

Lao Tzu
Hua Hu Ching, B.B. Walker, tr.


Thirst4sun,

>>>Well I hope you are not this miserable all of the time.<<<

Your perception is skewed. So is mine.


>>>I personally feel good about myself<<<

Maybe that is what keeps you from seeing beyond/behind "self".

"We're not certain who discovered water, but we're certain it wasn't a fish."

>>>Well hopefully one day you'll become a happier person and see some positive things in the life you have now<<<

To continue sleeping, what a dreadfull thing to hope for.

fu

[bito]

fu

For the blah, blah, blah's, may I prescribe a few hours with someone less than 8 years old?

Bringing candy is recommended...

For both of you.

:)

[venom mama]

you are who you want to be. what's going on is what you make it. just do it. if you sit around wondering all the time well, that's all that is going to happen. if you get out and make something happen then that is what's going on. you are who you want to be. make it happen.


the world is your playground.

[sahyo]

make it happen



:lol: