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vicente
25th June 2003, 12:24 AM
Anti-semitic, that is, against the ways, ideas, influences, etc., of the Jewish people. I'd say we need more of that if we are ever to witness World Peace,...just look at the facts.
Ever since Ishmael got duped out of his inheritance, the Jews been lying, deceiting and precipitated many of the worse atrocities in recorded history. If one were to make a list of the top 50 evilest known people in history, I count 31 of them, over 60%, directly related to Jewish manipulation:
1. Emperor Theodosius - Theodosian Laws
2. Gregory the Great - father of the Dark Age
3. Justinian - christian mass murderer
4. Tomas de Torquemada - inquisitor
5. Herod the Great -sociopath
6. Josef Stalin - sociopath
7. Ivan Vasilyevich - sociopath
8. Theophilus of Alexandria - patron saint of arson
9 .Vladislav Tepes - sociopath
10.Bernard Gui - christian mass murdered
11.Cyril of Alexandria
12.Pope Inoccent III
13.Reinhard Heydrich
14.Mao Tse-tung
15.Pol Pott
16.Irenaeus
17.Attaturk
18.Adolph Hitler
19.Tito
20.Nero
21.Ariel Sharon
22.Pope Pius VI
23.Hernando Cortez
24.Moses
25.Hirohito
26.Polycarp
27.Deng Xiao Peng
28.Ayatolla Khomeini
29.Idi Amin
30.Oliver Cromwell
31.Gilles de Rais
32.Sen. Joseph McCarthy
33.Arnold Aimery
34.Jerry falwell
35.Elizabeth Bathory
36.Pat Robertson
37.Adolph Eichmann
38.King Leopold II
39.Tom DeLay
40.Heinrich Himmler
41.Diocletian
42.Tertullian
43.Simon deMonfort
44.Caligula
45.Agusto Pinochet
46.Temjin, Genghis Khan
47.George W Bush
48.Benito Mussolini
49.Papa "Doc" Duvalier
50.Nicolae Ceausescu
Polaris
25th June 2003, 01:55 AM
:o
Do you really think the way to world peace would be through discrimination of a religious and ethnic group?
Where then does it stop?
Who sets the rules as to which religious and ethnic groups are tolerable and acceptable and which are not?
You, Vicente??
Do you fancy yourself pure and special enough to be able to pass judgement on an entire race of people?
And when you've ridded the world of Jews, then who will you turn on?
Can't you see that the way to world peace is through mutual acceptance and respect between the multitude of religious and ethnic groups everywhere?
When has discrimination and hate ever been a solution to anything? :(
vicente
25th June 2003, 02:14 AM
I don't wish to rid the world of Jews Polaris, I would like however to see a world without the influence of the Jewish religion. I'm an American,...my values arise from the idea of freedom of religion and freedom from religion.
The way to world peace from my perspective is not going to happen through any mutual acceptence between religions. Religions are at odds with each other and always will be. This is because all Judeao-Christian-Islamic based religions are false.
World peace will never precipitate from falsity.
:)
Polaris
25th June 2003, 03:03 AM
I don't wish to rid the world of Jews Polaris, I would like however to see a world without the influence of the Jewish religion. I'm an American,...my values arise from the idea of freedom of religion and freedom from religion.
There are many many Americans who are Jewish. Born and raise in the good old USA. You don't think they have ideals of freedom too? What makes your values more important than their's? What makes your values any DIFFERENTor BETTER than theirs? Or are your values and ideal all that matter to you?
And the only person responsible for you being influenced by anything is you. You make a victim of yourself. Don't blame the Jews because YOU'RE easily influenced. You want more money, more influence, more power..... go out and earn it and stop whining about others. But I can guaranty you will get little of any of those things by alienating people.
:(
dog goddess
25th June 2003, 03:18 AM
the only way to achieve world peace is when people stop judging others and look within themselves. so you can name names vicente, good for you. so you're judgemental, good for you. so you place the blame on others, good for you. what do you do for the world vicente, what actions do you perform to make the world a better place? everyone knows the world is full of suffering and pain and misery.
if you want peace for the world go out and do something about it.
it is the people of today that can change the world.
so you want a world without faith? then what would we have? you think peace? no, people would just find something else to use to justify their hate and greed.
faulting religion is only an easy way out.
why do you hate your creator so much?
becuase you didn't get yours? because you want more? what do you think is owed to you?
what makes you think you deserve it?
if you want to do something about the fate of the world then go do something about it.
it all begins with you.
rich
25th June 2003, 03:47 AM
I agree with dog godess, Vicente.
May I suggest that you use a Swastika as your avatar. :angry: :blink:
vicente
25th June 2003, 05:20 AM
Oh well, I guess you really told me. The truth is however, I've already, at the young age of 49, made more contributions towards the birthing of Human Beingness than 99% of the people on the planet. Yes indeed, I'm definitely in the top 60 million.
You are parially correct Dog, the way to achieve world peace is through non-judgementalism. To judge, especially to be a fair judge, is rather essential in the development of honesty, which you Dog, as shown in your posts, are obviously not.
Religion is the core evil in the world my dear Dog. I do not hate your creator,...your creator is merely a myth. And I, am actively engaged in the process to bring complete obliteration to that god myth, while at the same time, promoting the true values of America and honest spirituality.
:)
"The ultimate tyranny in a society is control by the psychological manipulation of consciousness, through which reality is defined in such a way that those who exist within it do not even realize that they are in prison." a Pleiadian
dog goddess
25th June 2003, 08:04 AM
i do not judge anyone and i certainly do not waste my time placing blame. who cares what others have done. its about what we do with our todays that matters. religion is not the core of evil. humankinds manipulations of religion, perhaps.
too bad you guage your own beliefs by the minds of others.
zygoat
25th June 2003, 09:09 AM
vicente,
You are parially correct Dog, Yes indeed, I'm definitely in the top 60 million.
If one were to make a list of the top 50 evilest evilest?is that proper english?definitely top 60 million material!!
also sounds to me that you are atop the list of racists. :angry:
rich
25th June 2003, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by vicente@Jun 25 2003, 12:24 AM
Anti-semitic, that is, against the ways, ideas, influences, etc., of the Jewish people. I'd say we need more of that if we are ever to witness World Peace,...just look at the facts.
Ever since Ishmael got duped out of his inheritance, the Jews been lying, deceiting and precipitated many of the worse atrocities in recorded history. If one were to make a list of the top 50 evilest known people in history, I count 31 of them, over 60%, directly related to Jewish manipulation:
1. Emperor Theodosius - Theodosian Laws
2. Gregory the Great - father of the Dark Age
3. Justinian - christian mass murderer
4. Tomas de Torquemada - inquisitor
5. Herod the Great -sociopath
6. Josef Stalin - sociopath
7. Ivan Vasilyevich - sociopath
8. Theophilus of Alexandria - patron saint of arson
9 .Vladislav Tepes - sociopath
10.Bernard Gui - christian mass murdered
11.Cyril of Alexandria
12.Pope Inoccent III
13.Reinhard Heydrich
14.Mao Tse-tung
15.Pol Pott
16.Irenaeus
17.Attaturk
18.Adolph Hitler
19.Tito
20.Nero
21.Ariel Sharon
22.Pope Pius VI
23.Hernando Cortez
24.Moses
25.Hirohito
26.Polycarp
27.Deng Xiao Peng
28.Ayatolla Khomeini
29.Idi Amin
30.Oliver Cromwell
31.Gilles de Rais
32.Sen. Joseph McCarthy
33.Arnold Aimery
34.Jerry falwell
35.Elizabeth Bathory
36.Pat Robertson
37.Adolph Eichmann
38.King Leopold II
39.Tom DeLay
40.Heinrich Himmler
41.Diocletian
42.Tertullian
43.Simon deMonfort
44.Caligula
45.Agusto Pinochet
46.Temjin, Genghis Khan
47.George W Bush
48.Benito Mussolini
49.Papa "Doc" Duvalier
50.Nicolae Ceausescu
Vicente, Think that you should bump at least one from your list to include Napoleon Bonaparte. :huh: :unsure: How about scratching out Tito.
Polaris
25th June 2003, 08:29 PM
The truth is however, I've already, at the young age of 49, made more contributions towards the birthing of Human Beingness than 99% of the people on the planet. Yes indeed, I'm definitely in the top 60 million.
Ummmm, you're not just a little bit full of yourself, are you? :P
Vicente, I can't tell if you're being honest in this thread with your facetious attitude and overwhelming obtuseness or if you're just trying to get things stirred up. Are you serious or are you just out trolling for a controversy?
Regardless of your intent in this discussion, I have decided that if you continue on this tack of delusional impropriety, I will no longer participate in this particular conversation. Carrying on a dialogue with you about your apparent anti-Semitic beliefs only presents you with fuel for whatever demented cause you are firing. I wont be a party to that. You can believe what you want but I wont be your audience.
vicente
26th June 2003, 12:23 AM
Polaris, your pro-semitic stance is unbecoming, especially on a BigView forum. My comment as you quoted above is quite accurrate,...do you prefer I be dishonest, or even worse, pretend humbleness?
I assure you dear cyber bud, my dialogue is neither ficticous nor obtrusive, except to those clinging to falsity for their identity. The Early Christian Church is one of my areas of expertise, and just so happens to have been my college major, which in 1988, membership of the Westar Institute suggested I was in the top 20 in the field. Arrogance does not arise from knowing who one is. If you wish to judge me on my Amerianistic grammer, such as "evilest", that is of course your own contention to ponder, as is the suggestion of "delusional impropriety" How easily you imagine that attacking the messenger will keep hidden the message. The fiction is Judeaism, not I. For example:
Mount Sinai was volcano in Saudi Arabia, says scientist
By Roger Highfield Science Editor
13/06/2003)
Mount Sinai, where Scripture says Moses received God's Law, is located in Saudi Arabia, not Egypt's Sinai Peninsula - moving a key site for Judaism into the nation where Islam was founded, according to a Cambridge professor.
Science also backs traditional beliefs that the Israelites' exodus from Egypt was led by Moses, roughly the way that the Bible tells it, according to Prof Colin Humphreys of Cambridge University.
Prof Humphreys, outlines his findings in his forthcoming book: The Miracles of Exodus: A Scientist's Discovery of the Extraordinary Natural Causes of the Biblical Stories.
While other scholars have proposed that Sinai was in Arabia, Prof Humphreys argues that the holy mount must have been an active volcano, since it shook and emitted fire and smoke (Exodus 19:18). And he has carefully examined records ancient and modern to fix the site.
His candidate: present-day Mount Bedr in north-western Saudi Arabia, since there were no ancient volcanoes in what was later named the Sinai Peninsula.
Prof Humphreys also thinks that near Mount Bedr, Moses experienced God's call at the "burning bush". He suggests that this was caused by flammable natural gas or volcanic gas escaping from the ground.
The Book of Exodus obviously underwent later editing, he said, but the evidence strongly suggests witness material that might well come from Moses himself. The book is "amazingly accurate and coherent", he said.
Prof Humphreys also offers other "naturalistic" explanations for wondrous events. For instance, he thinks that escalating natural disasters explain each of the 10 "plagues" that forced Pharaoh to let the Israelite slaves depart. The Nile "turned to blood" meant that toxic red algae killed fish, the dead fish forced frogs ashore, gnats and flies were drawn to the dead fish and frogs and the insects transmitted a virus that killed livestock.
Polaris
26th June 2003, 01:54 AM
http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/rnorberg/sound/windbag1.jpg
:P :D
dog goddess
26th June 2003, 04:27 AM
so what does arrogance arise from vicente?
why be arrogant anyways? when it comes down to it, we are all the same dirt.
jews, christians, athiests,vicentes.
sonrisa
28th June 2003, 02:35 PM
Vincente, you are sounding an awful lot like #18 on your sh*t list. Surely you are aware of the paralells between this current regime & Hitler's regime. I can't believe you started this topic. :blink:
Perhaps I am missing something in your posts. If you are referring to how some Israelis (note the distinction) treat Palestinians, then I'd say you have a point- in that respect, those Israelis are no better than the Germans who mistreated Jews. But not all Jews are Israelis, & not all Israelis treat Palestinians like dirt under their fingernails. You can't be lumping all the Jews into a single (derogatory) category.
ps how come Dracula is higher on your sh*t list than Hitler? Between the 2 I'd say Hitler is the worse. Not that Dracula was exactly Romania's sweetheart but I don't think his body count was up in the 6,000,000 range either.
sonrisa
28th June 2003, 02:44 PM
one more thing- I notice you have an Inquisidor on the list: so where's Isabella of Spain? That perrona was responsible for the Inquisition.
Ronagon
2nd July 2003, 07:00 AM
Anti-Semitism arises from two things, as I see it:
1) Enraged cultural jealousy by all other groups over all that the Jews are able to produce for themselves,
2) The fact that the Jewish people, for operational purposes, choose to regard themselves as the proper choice for a true "master race",
and
3) They don't like to share with others outside of their group, much less those inside of their group. They seek any and all ways to gain an executive advantage over other groups.
And by "executive advantage", I mean that they strive to iron-fistedly control both the mind-set and money of any culture which they come to inhabit.
But then again, everything that I just said of the Jews, I think I could say about a great many non-Jewish groups.
Of course, one could then make the argument that people the world over get caught up in all of this frenzy, just to keep up with the Jews, who have always instigated this whole process.
I don't know. But I'm inclined to think that the Jews didn't invent greed and stealth... I've seen enough Jane Goodall documentaries to know that chimps do it, too.
And chimp-like creatures existed long before humans, apparently. And I don't think chimps wear yarmulkes.
Ronagon
2nd July 2003, 07:11 AM
As I re-read that last post I made, another question seems to beg to be asked...
Assuming that there's nothing wrong with one group seeking a competitive advantage over all others, do the Jews violate any important ethical rules in doing so?
For me, that's the meat of the matter.
This is why religions in general are usually so dangerous; they always seem to set people up to be conquerors, or the conquered.
The holy books of Judaism and Islam, as they are actually written and if strictly followed verbatim, ultimately lead their followers to conquer the earth. Their "never compromise" philosophies clearly inspire that.
The holy books of religions like Taoism and Buddhism, as they are actually written and if strictly followed verbatim, ultimately cause their followers to become the conquered. Their "always compromise" philosophies clearly inspire that, in turn.
Polaris
2nd July 2003, 08:13 PM
Assuming that there's nothing wrong with one group seeking a competitive advantage over all others, do the Jews violate any important ethical rules in doing so?
I think that's a tough question to answer since there are as many different preceptions of violation as there are people.
I would say that when it comes to breaking ethical rules, Jews are no more likely or unlikely to do this than any other ambitious, misguided person from any ethnic background.
Speaking with some limited small scale experience on this (my husband owns his own successful small business) I would say that if somebody has an honest work ethic where the employees, clients and community needs are valued and respected by the company then I think it is possible to have a competitive advantage while remaining ethical. It should also be noted that in ordered to have a competitive advantage, then it is necessary and extremely healthy for everyone concerned to actually have competition. It is competition that makes a business and a community strong.
ie. No matter what the TV commercials say, Walmart does not contribute to the community when they move in and put a lot of smaller shop owners out of business. Nothing creates urban decay faster than a row of vacant shops with newspaper all over the windows.
The holy books of religions like Taoism and Buddhism, as they are actually written and if strictly followed verbatim, ultimately cause their followers to become the conquered. Their "always compromise" philosophies clearly inspire that, in turn.
I can see how this might be the impression people get. However as far as I'm concerned it's sort of more complicated than that. In one way Buddhists are just as non-compromising as religions such as Judaism and Islam. If I compromise to you on a point then what that means is, I am not compromising on my Buddhist philosophy. For most things a compromise and acceptance can be found. For the things where there is no compromise there is only acceptance. :)
a random hack
25th August 2003, 09:44 AM
Hey vicente,
Had time to mull over your 50 'baddest' list, is there a list of the 50 'goodest' to go with it?
vicente
25th August 2003, 09:56 AM
As for 50 better known positive people:
1. Siddhartha Buddha
2. Milarespa
3. Tilopa
4. Baha'u'llah
5. Thomas Paine
6. Lao Tzu
7. Naropa
8. Hermes
9. Aristotle
10.Leonardo De Vinci
11.Thomas Jefferson
12.Confucius
13.GI Gurdjieff
14.Mohandas Gandhi
15.Martin Luther King
16.John Locke
17.Friedrich Nietzsche
18.Apollonius of Tyana
19.Mahavira
20.Rudyard Kipling
21.Ben Franklin
22.Ptolemy Soter
23.Dalai Lama
24.Nelson Mandela
25.Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
26.John Adams
27.Chief Joseph
28.Baruch Spinoza
29.Marie Curie
30.Nicoli Tesla
31.Alfred Bernhard Nobel
32.Socrates
33.Nicolas Copernicus
34.Albert Einstein
35.Jane Addams
36.Sir Issac Newton
37.Jalaluddin Rumi
38.Cecil Rhodes
39.Eamon De Valera
40.Jean Paul Sartre
41.Albert Schweitzer
42.Carl Jung
43.Mary Wollstonecraft
44.Jimmy Carter
45.Benito Juarez
46.Ernesto "Che" Guevara
47.Princess Diana
48.The Beatles
49.Teresa of Avila
50.Raoul Wallenberg
a random hack
25th August 2003, 10:04 AM
Thanks, much obliged :)
Polaris
25th August 2003, 08:57 PM
48.The Beatles
:huh:
Amy
12th September 2003, 07:22 PM
Well, i think that Adolf Hitler has a little right about his hate for the Jews. In his book, Mein Kampf, he said that all his hate began from the fact that the Jews were the leaders of the social-democracy in German and we all know that on that period the social-democracy was against Germany and against the workers class. Of course, Adolf Hitler went to the point of an extremist but i think he had a little right...anyway his decisions and rules for the Jews were extremely bad and certainly not a way to change the face of Germany...
Polaris
12th September 2003, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by Amy@Sep 12 2003, 09:22 AM
Well, i think that Adolf Hitler has a little right about his hate for the Jews. In his book, Mein Kampf, he said that all his hate began from the fact that the Jews were the leaders of the social-democracy in German and we all know that on that period the social-democracy was against Germany and against the workers class. Of course, Adolf Hitler went to the point of an extremist but i think he had a little right...anyway his decisions and rules for the Jews were extremely bad and certainly not a way to change the face of Germany...
Hate is never justified or even a "little right" and it is certainly a horrible way to bring about a change. Nothing positive ever came from hate.
I read Mein Kampf as well. Mind you it was years ago when I was in university so I can't readily make quotes. One thing that is for certain is that it is a glimpse inside the head of one of history's most notorious leaders. But you have to keep in mind that Hitler himself wrote Mein Kampf and as a result he would have attempted to justify and rationalize his actions any way he can. Hitler believed he was doing the right thing by slaughtering millions of people. Is that the kind of mind you go on the record as saying was "a little right"??
Hitler can teach us a lot because some of the things he wrote are still relevent today as far as wartime strategies etc... are concerned and Mein Kampf is an excellent read if you're looking to find out more about what makes a mind like his tick (there are still minds like his out there controlling people's lives today). But I would seriously hesitate to call anything he did justifiable.
Amy
13th September 2003, 07:01 PM
I didn't say that his actions are justified...I was saying that in a little part i sustain what Hitler said about the impact of the Jewish people on German people. Don't forget that Hitler wrote his book when he was in prison, before he become fuhrer so i don't think that he wrote his book to justify his future actions. Anyway i say that if we think at the concept, at the idea, Hitler had right about the Jewish people. On the other side what he did to modify this situation is condamnable. I sustain the idea of change but i don't sustain his actions. Don't forget that his hate borned from the thing that the Jews were the leaders of the social-democracy. Before that Hitler didn't hate the Jews.
Polaris
13th September 2003, 08:21 PM
I was saying that in a little part i sustain what Hitler said about the impact of the Jewish people on German people.
The leaders of the social-democracy in German may have been Jews but they were also German, living, raising their families, working hard and building a strong financial future for their country. How is that ever a problem?
I think the problem is that you (and Hitler) both made the distinction between Jewish people and German people. It seems that what you both forgot is that we are all just people regardless of ethnic background or nationality. A Christian German was never any better than a Jewish German. They were all German... ALL PEOPLE.
sahyo
13th September 2003, 09:44 PM
people saying "am jewish" are thinkingdistinction also
rich
13th September 2003, 10:20 PM
asheera posted:
people saying "am jewish" are thinkingdistinction also
iow, people can say something, and say nothing, so why say anything? :P
sahyo
14th September 2003, 04:10 AM
no :)
Polaris
14th September 2003, 06:10 AM
people saying 'am people' also thinkingdistinction also.
ho-hum.... am this, am that, am not this, am not that
am stuck in dualistic vortex... am not stuck
:rolleyes: :)
sahyo
14th September 2003, 07:55 AM
hehe
using word 'people' not saying "am people"
polaris not listening
Polaris
14th September 2003, 08:46 PM
Polaris listening but sometimes not hear... or not understand :)
rich
14th September 2003, 09:24 PM
Aw, I am fed up with what people do/say/think this and people do/say/think that: ;) :huh:
What i want to read/see/here, is: :o
what do YOU /say/think, this and that.
Or, if the glove fits, wear it. I mean, 'speak up' ! :(
Polaris
14th September 2003, 09:28 PM
If the glove fits, wear it.
But don't try to wear it over a latex glove because that which once fit may fit no longer. :) ;)
rich
14th September 2003, 09:46 PM
Your next reply shall make you a sister bigview Guru. Congratulations. May I seek your advice, before posting. or should I post, before consulting? What are my alternatives? Or maybe I better check the score out with asheera? What do you think, Polaris? :unsure: ;) :P :blink:
Polaris
15th September 2003, 03:38 AM
D'OH!!! I can't even respond to that without becoming a "guru"! <_<
I hereby go on record as saying... I am NOT a guru..... even if this thinger-ma-jigger says I am. :wacko:
rich
15th September 2003, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by Polaris@Sep 15 2003, 03:38 AM
D'OH!!! I can't even respond to that without becoming a "guru"! <_<
I hereby go on record as saying... I am NOT a guru..... even if this thinger-ma-jigger says I am. :wacko:
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Polaris
15th September 2003, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by Thomas Knierim@Sep 15 2003, 12:41 AM
I should mention that the accumulation of 250 posts does not automatically afford you the mandatory salutation "Hail, o venerable teacher." :lol: If you prefer a different denomination (more humble perhaps, such as "Emperor Maximus", or "Ms. Universe"), you should be able to change the title by editing your user profile. Unfortunately I was never able to test this function, so please tell me if it doesn't work. :)
Cheers, Thomas
Can I tell you if it DOES work :) ;)
rich
16th September 2003, 11:48 AM
What is an existential duffer? :o
What is a plain ordinary duffer? B)
Polaris
16th September 2003, 07:56 PM
What is a plain ordinary duffer?
A mediocre golfer. I am also that!! ;) :lol:
Amy
2nd October 2003, 04:19 PM
I want to continue the discution about Adolf Hitler and anti-semitism and about social-democracy. I want to know how many of you are from ex-comunist countries. Well i tell you i am i tell you that it wasn't a very fine period of history for my country. Maybe you all will understand that i'm not an antisemit. I'm not against the Jewish people but i am against social-democracy. I have nothing with Jewish people. I want to talk about this political view. I'm waiting a response especially from you,Polaris.
a random hack
3rd October 2003, 07:56 AM
Amy,
Hi :)
What do you mean by 'social-democracy'?
How has this political (? I'm guessing :) ) system impacted on you?
Polaris
3rd October 2003, 09:16 PM
Amy, I'm not sure what a social-democracy has to do with the Jewish people in any specific sense so I'm not going to comment on that.
I will say that in being "against" social-democracy you have basically told me that you would prefer a "two-tiered system" in our society. You will most certainly have people who enjoy unimaginable wealth and you will have those who suffer a level of destitution that even you can't appreciate as you sit before that computer with the privilege to respond to me. Keep in mind that a social-democracy is a LONG way from communism.
It is entirely possible to have a balance between capitalism and socialism in a democratic society. Do you think it's right that the wealthy can make their billions courtesy of the hard labours of the poor and not take some responsibility for sustaining a standard quality of life for them?
Two things in life that are unavoidable: Death and Taxes.
Do you know what services your taxes provide?
I live in Canada. As far as democracies are concerned, Canada is pretty much as social as they come. For example, we have socialize health care. Our health care system is extremely important to Canadians. It's not perfect and not without flaws by any means but what's most important is that everyone in Canada is entitled to healthcare regardless of their economic station. You would deny people access to medical care because they can't afford it?
Amy, if you couldn't afford cancer treatment for yourself or your child, how would you feel? In a social democracy you would be provided for just as well as your wealthy boss. That's a bad thing??? :huh:
sonrisa
4th October 2003, 02:58 AM
Amy, please define social democracy, esp how it differs from your regular garden variety democracy. Somebody said, "Democracy is a rotten form of govt. But the alternatives are worse." What country are you from? I am from the United States, where a bunch of fascist thugs have hijacked our electoral system, forced their way into power, & are undermining our Constitution & attacking our civil liberties. It seems like every week they come up with some new way to chip away at our civil rights. I see with my own eyes what is happening here, & I have no desire to live in a fascist state. I will take democracy any day.
"Don't it always seem to go, ya don't know whatcha got til it's gone." Joni Mitchell
BeyondBeliefs
12th October 2003, 05:29 PM
I'm not sure what "Social Democracy" but I can tell you that no two people within one form of government, describe it in the same way.
It takes many minds to describe the many aspects of any invention.
Generally speaking, for the past 50,000 years, EVERY successful village and tribe invented a language and a COOPERATION for sharing our efforts, talents and wisdoms and therefore elevate each other, and all our children, with our accumulating abilites and understandings. Those villages and tribes that did not invent languages and cooperations PERISHED or joined villages that did have languages for sharing Human efforts.
The DEFINITION of "Human" is the COOPERATION of Living Things spanning the entire History of Life on Earth.
Nations and religions, like languages, may seem different, but they are not. They made it possible for roaming nomadic tribes of mammals to create Humans by combining their centuries of accumulating wisdoms. (Unfortunately, beliefs are also passed on using words.)
Lies are the enemy of every nation and religion. And Humanity the victim of the toxins within the "food", and not of the food itself.
Communism and Democracy, is just forms of sharing Human effort.
They are the forms of Unity, without which Humans would have become extinct long ago.
Amy
20th June 2005, 09:33 PM
I want to ask you all what do you think of the last film about Adolf Hitler, "Der Untergang" which is based upon the novel written by his last secretary Traudl Humps. What kind of impressions have you got after you saw the film?
Ronagon
27th June 2005, 01:55 PM
The Jews certainly have a record of high intellectual achievement; however, they tend to regard people outside of their clique as inconsequential and expendable whenever it's convenient.
I chalk this up to one of their basic tenets, which is that they are unconditionally the "chosen people". This acts subconsciously on them, and allows them to feel without stain, no matter how rotten they behave.
In fact, it goes beyond this, as if to say, "Because we are Jewish, we cannot, by definition, really ever be evil, no matter WHAT we do."
venom mama
28th August 2005, 08:02 AM
i just have to say to dog goddess.....
amen baby, amen.
zygoat
1st September 2005, 08:52 AM
the biggest anti -Semite on this board=Vicente!!! :angry:
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